6 speed 07' legacy tranny into my 03' WRX

Discussion in 'Member Journals & Project Build Stories' started by thebigph, Jan 10, 2007.

  1. thebigph

    thebigph longing for another subie Supporting Member

    so instead of getting the ppg gears installed i decided to put in an 07 legacy 6 speed tranny w/o DCCD into my 03 WRX. some of the parts including the tranny have to be shipped here and should be here by the end of the week and then good ole mr will at SoG is going to do the install.
     
  2. AirMax95

    AirMax95 Active Member

    how much will this cost you? What are the upsides vs. the STi or other tranny swap........
     
  3. thebigph

    thebigph longing for another subie Supporting Member

    it will cost about 8000 and the upsides are not having to mess with DCCD and the gears are longer in this tranny and the cost is about 1000 less than the sti tranny
     
  4. Deke

    Deke Active Member

    Thumbs up for longer gears. That was the one thing I didn't like about the STi I drove.
     
  5. thebigph

    thebigph longing for another subie Supporting Member

    ok now will is saying all of the parts are in but something about the tranny doesn't have a speedometer. not really sure how that works but apparently there isn't one even in the US and to get one would take 3-4 weeks. he said there probably isn't a way to have the shipping expedited and so now i'm not getting to get my car back for atleast that long provided NOTHING ELSE comes up. oh yeah and the speedometer is going to cost another 500-600 dollars. has anybody ever heard of this happening and how come it wasn't forseen? maybe im' just not meant to have my car back ever. who knows but it is really frustrating. i thought all of my troubles were over once i stopped going to topspeed for work on my car...
     
  6. mckenzietj

    mckenzietj Member

    Speedo drive gear , reluctor ring, vss sensor, what about the speedo is missing? Must it be rewired and calibrated to run the WRX cluster after the missing speedo part is installed? That's just odd! Never saw a factory crate tranny that wasn't practically complete.
     
  7. calmnothing

    calmnothing Shlimp Flied Lice Supporting Member

    The speed sensor is no longer inside the tranny....started with the 06 models
     
  8. thebigph

    thebigph longing for another subie Supporting Member

    ok i heard from wil lthe other day and the part that is needed is supposed to be here at the end of this month. that is the last thing that is needed and then work will begin on the tranny swap. this is of course what i've been told and it is very subject to change. wish me luck and i'll keep you posted on how things are going and whenever it gets done i'll be more than happy to let everyone know how it drives :)
     
  9. socrates42

    socrates42 Member

    Yeah its because the speed sensor is different on the 03 vs the legacy. Are you getting a different driveshaft to make the leg tranny work? Are you still using the R160 rear diff?
     
  10. jonnyboy0150

    jonnyboy0150 Member

    Sounds like a hassle. I wouldve figured that the speedometer reads directly from the wheel speed sensors.
     
  11. thebigph

    thebigph longing for another subie Supporting Member

    i think will said the r160 will still work and about the driveshaft...i'm not too familiar with transmission but isn't that part of the tranny? i'm getting the works. whatever it takes to do the swap is what i got. sorry i'm not more aware but if will reads this then maybe he can enlighten us

    phil
     
  12. WJM

    WJM Banned

    We are using the stock R160.
    Why?
    The 06+ 6MT's have the 1.1:1 rear output reduction. So rear diff is 3.545. All we need is the 6MT drive shaft and the R180 rear diff driveshaft snout for the diff. All bolt on. Done.

    As for the speedo...

    Aparently the 06+ legacy does not use a speedo gear inside the transmission. This means that the speed is read from the ABS for the cluster speedometer. This was something I did not know about.

    Thanks to the dealers whining too much, we did not get an 07 New Model Update class from SOA to tell us that. Thanks you cheap ass bastards.

    Anyways...tomorrow I'll call to make sure the front housing is still on schedule.

    The housing is needed from the 04~06 STi for the like stock speedo gear. I have in hand all the other peices. Just need the front housing.
     
  13. thebigph

    thebigph longing for another subie Supporting Member

    see i knew will would come through and explain it all...thanks will
     
  14. thebigph

    thebigph longing for another subie Supporting Member

    quick update...will says he has the part and should be working on my car very soon. hopefully everything goes well and he doesn't come across anything else. should have my car back by dyno day. hopefully hopefully hopefully
     
  15. WJM

    WJM Banned

    I've got the transmission assembled. I had to order a few small things to complete the swap. They will be here monday and I should have the car ready before that weekend.
     
  16. thebigph

    thebigph longing for another subie Supporting Member

    Sweeeeeetttt!!!!!!!!
     
  17. WRX-WRC

    WRX-WRC Active Member

    i saw your baby today, a bright and shiny new 6 speed gettin ready to make its home in your car. Making me want to get one too, heh.
     
  18. thebigph

    thebigph longing for another subie Supporting Member

    i don't blame you one bit. i'll certainly post up when it's all done to let everyone know how it is. i have a feeling it's going to be like buttta. or really nice compared to what it was
     
  19. sti-mike

    sti-mike Member

    Sounds exciting to me I hope it all works well for you...
     
  20. thebigph

    thebigph longing for another subie Supporting Member

    thanks
     
  21. gotsol

    gotsol Active Member

    I saw that tranny sitting in peices a few weeks ago. I'm glad she'll be installed soon.
     
  22. thebigph

    thebigph longing for another subie Supporting Member

    i just heard from will and the trany is bolted to the engine now everything has to be put in the car and it will be ready for pick up later this afternoon. things are looking good and time is going slow due to anxiety, but it looks like the car will finally be done and i can drive it again.
     
  23. miloman

    miloman Retired Admin

    i saw ur transmission when i was up there... its nice and shiny :)
     
  24. Cool_____

    Cool_____ Banned

    It should be shiny....it freaking brand spanking new! Keep us updated man.....that's a lot of dough but at least it'll last.
     
  25. Alex

    Alex Community Founder Staff Member

    Saw it on saturday, good luck!
     
  26. WJM

    WJM Banned

    It is complete.
     
  27. someones doing the happyhappyjoyjoy dance right now...

    give us some impressions after the permagrin is gone.
     
  28. thebigph

    thebigph longing for another subie Supporting Member

    i don't think the permagrin will be gone for a while but she just got back after a good deal of driving. it is amazing. i can't say enough about it but the car is awesome. i'm about to get out of here and go do some more driving. man does it feel good to be back in my scooby!!!!!!!!!!m it's like drving a brand new car now. it is a brand new car now. I LOVE IT!!!!!
     
  29. miloman

    miloman Retired Admin

    lets go cruise around somewhere... i cant get enough of mine either :)
     
  30. thebigph

    thebigph longing for another subie Supporting Member

    sounds good we should def do that sometime. ps i will be at battleground on sat too
     
  31. thebigph

    thebigph longing for another subie Supporting Member

    i would just like to give a big shout out to all the guys at SoG for helping me with the swap. especially will the most honest tech i have ever come across. thanks you will for everything and all the patience you gave me with all my questions all the time. the car is better than expected and i love it!
     
  32. gotsol

    gotsol Active Member

    nice, now contribute to his baby gift!!! :)
     
  33. miloman

    miloman Retired Admin

    mr. jdm doesn't understand 'thank you'... he only understands 'arigato'
     
  34. thebigph

    thebigph longing for another subie Supporting Member

    if you're going to be at batlground on sat i can contribute then. otherwise let me know another way i can get you some cash
     
  35. sti-mike

    sti-mike Member

    How is it ???
     
  36. thebigph

    thebigph longing for another subie Supporting Member

    it is awesome. mostly to have a car back but also to know that i finally have a tranny that can handle what i dish out i haven't gotten all the way on it yet b/c i'm still getting used to the tranny itself but it's great having the car in perfect condition.
     
  37. crashtke

    crashtke Member Supporting Member

    Just curious what this housing you talk about actually is and what it cost? I am considering a similar swap and wondered exactly what parts you need to purchase? I would like to figure out all the parts so I can see what the parts portion is going to cost.

    So far what I can see:

    -transmission
    -driveshaft-which one is able to be used? Can you use an automatic driveshaft?
    -speedometer housing?
    -new axels?
    -new hubs?
     
  38. WJM

    WJM Banned

    Mike, send me a PM and I'll tell you all about it...I'm on vacation tho, so it may be a day...or more before I PM you back.
     
  39. Kyle

    Kyle Member

    $8000?
     
  40. Alex

    Alex Community Founder Staff Member

    It dynod well too :)
     
  41. crashtke

    crashtke Member Supporting Member

    Your pm's are full bro, I tried though, lol.
     
  42. thebigph

    thebigph longing for another subie Supporting Member

    it did dyno well. i have to admit that i was a little nervous but it held up very well and i am very happy with the end product!!
     
  43. WJM

    WJM Banned

    Fixed. Send away.
     
  44. thebigph

    thebigph longing for another subie Supporting Member

    well now that i've been driving around for a little while i'd jsut like to say that the tranny is still awesome. the new gearing is sweet. it's got just a little bit of a whine to it and that is what i like. i think if i had gone with the ppg gears the whine would not have bothered me at all. i would have gone through gas like a bitch though. anyway i think i am the only one in the country with this setup. that's kind of cool to me.
     

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