Well I picked up Weapons wheels and I love them on my car. However I have a slight issue. But before I get into it, some slight back ground. Before swapping to these wheels and tires, I was running Pirelli PZero Neros 225/50/16 on the stockers. No rubbing or issues. Now Im running 225/45/17 and now Im getting rubbing. Tires are Potenza RE070s. (Searched and some say the actual width on the RE070 is 235 rather than 225) Ive done a lot of searching and seen that on NASIOC it seems to be a pretty common problem. Fender rolling is a common fix, and I plan on having that done, if picking up a different tire wont work. I did some searching on here and found some info on a place called Gwinnett Collision? Anyone have a contact there I can call? Am I going to be okay for at least a couples weeks or so with an occasional rub? My drive into work is like only 4 miles and I dont corner hard on the way in either lol
The thing is the RE's have a tremendously, I mean monstrously stiffer sidewall compared to the pirelli's. Rubbing, to a certain point, is a cosmetic problem. If you limp around you'll be fine. Softer sidewalls will probably solve the problem, but the permanent fix obviously is to widen the fenders (rolling).
Either go to a 215 width tire....or roll your fenders pretty aggressively...or get really stiff springs in the rear
Wow, thanks for the quick responses. I need to replace the tires in the next few weeks anyways. Any recommendations on a tire that would clear? But it only seems to be coming from the rear drivers side. No other tire is really having the issue.
Im runnin 235/45/17 so i do it a bit too but not as bad as when I had 35offset so I know what ya mean mine is mostly pass. side rear i'll be doing stiffer suspension and fender rolling only if needed but every lil bit helps.
What springs are you on? Low soft springs often lead to rubbing on the wagons, that or 225 or wider tires. I've got my fingers crossed that I wont rub with the new suspension setup. Fender rolling is cheap, there was something on IA about a shop that rolled fenders for $30 or so a corner.
Reo70's is a much better tire for agressive driving. So depending on what you do is the answer to your question. But 30 dollors a corner is cheap damn...
The shop on IA lost their tool to do the rolling though....but once they get a new tool then yes $30 is hella cheap per corner
that was my first concern...knowing that he's running on lowering springs is causing the rub. That paired with wider, bigger wheels means a rub indefinitely. I used to rub on my lowering springs with the stock tires. change the tire, change the suspension, and you'll be just fine
maybe trade in the car at the same time? LOL No, I ran 225/50/16s on stockers and it was just fine dropped. I managed to figure out a solution though.
strange, cuz I ran that same setup on my RS last year with STi suspension and rubbed like you wouldn't believe
I think I read on Nasioc that your year RS's have trouble running any sort of 225s, and that 215 is sort of the stock limit? Well I finished swapping the stockers back on and brought out the tape measure while I was doing it. The RE070s measure approx 9 inches in diameter from side to side (225/45/17) The Perelli's measure approx 8 inches in diameter from side to side (225/50/16) WEIRD? :eek4:
i never had rubbing issues on my wagon and i am running the same springs and stock struts like you. they are a lot of tire though!
Its not all that odd actually, certain tire companies simply have tires that run wider than others despite the same sizing (ie Falken Azenis).
I believe the RE70's are actually closer to being a 235 width tire than 225. With some fancy inginuity you can fit anything.
tire size fyi- all tires have to be within 1/4 inch in circumference so that you do not mess up your all wheel drive system (viscuss coupling)! that means you just can't replace just one or two tires you have to replace all 4 at the same time if they are not within spec. its in your owners manual if you dont beleive me.
I would figure he has like 100 pics already, that's how the photgraphers are. I can't walk a block without stopping when my friends have their cameras.
that is weird. the 225/45-16 I'm running now is money. No, not JT Money, just money no rub, perfect height, etc...I just can't wait to get my 17's on there next week. I'll have to go down to a 215 with the 17 though
Tire circumference, yes, you are correct, but this thread is about rubbing because of tire WIDTH...which is entirely different, and will not effect the center diff. Nemesis, I would suggest rolling your fenders before buying a smaller tire. Fit as much meat under your car as you can. I am running 255/40/17 bridgestone G-force on a Sedan, and while I have more fender clearence than you, it is still a big tire, and I only rub every once and a while. If I rolled my fenders, I wouldn't rub at all. .02
Quote: fyi- all tires have to be within 1/4 inch in circumference so that you do not mess up your all wheel drive system (viscuss coupling)! that means you just can't replace just one or two tires you have to replace all 4 at the same time if they are not within spec. its in your owners manual if you dont beleive me. just trying to throw in a little helpfull info, youd be surprised how many subaru owners dint know this!
Thanks for the valuable info everyone. Im going to first try another 225 tire. Possibly a less agressive tire. If it doesnt rub after installing the new tires, Ill definitly have my answer. If it does, Ill get my fenders rolled. But one last question... Why would the 225 on the 17" wheel (RE070) be almost an inch wider than the 225 on the 16" wheel (Pirelli)
The difference in wheel diameter shouldn't effect the width of the tire. I was just talking to someone about this yesterday and the way it was explained to me is that it is not a standard system of measurement. A 225 from one tire company can be wider or more narrow than another company. It probably has to do with where on the tire "width" measurement is taken from. For instance, the tread on my G-force extends a bit on to what I would call the sidewall of the tire...but Bridgestone may consider that part of the tire width when obtaining the 255 width measurement, which would make it a bit smaller than a tire like the Yoko EVS100, that tire has a very distinct sidewall, don't quote me on that info, it is just an example of the way the differences in tire measurement between manufactures was explained to me...I am not saying that it is a fact that the Bridgestone G-Force is a narrower tire than the same size Yokohama EVS100. The guy that I was chatting with (Steve at SSP Motorsports) went on to explain that some people take advantage of this when fitting racing tires on their cars in classes that limit tire size. If you know that company X's 205/40 is actually closer to a 225/40, and your class limits you to a 205...then you can get away with running a wider tire, because it says 205 on the sidewall.