breaking the car free?

Discussion in 'Modifications & DIY how-to' started by EodSTI, May 2, 2007.

  1. EodSTI

    EodSTI Member

    I know this is probably going through your minds why does he want to break the car free? In all actuality I am just wondering if it can be done, I mean from everything I can tell the car was meant to grip the shit out of the road and it does that very well. From taking corners at ridiculously higher speeds then most cars, and maybe a slight squeal as you exit a corner once in a while.

    What I was wondering was if you could, is it possible to drift it even if only a little and how one would go about this feat. Mind you I am not attempting to try this at anytime, until I actually have enough spare time to go to a parking lot and find out my limits! I was just asked about it from my roommate and I really don't even know the answer. Sad I know but what I believe it can do and what it can do are two very different things!

    Priest
     
  2. 5spdfrk

    5spdfrk Active Member

    Get a big front sway bar, and an adjustable rear sway bar. That should get your back end sliding a little bit, but it still wont be like a full on drift.
     
  3. BelvnAWD

    BelvnAWD I'm Vin, Bell-Vin...

    A properly set up car can be made to oversteer, with the right driver in the right environment (i.e. a closed track...the techniques you use to make this cars ass hang out wouldn't be advisable on the street...)
     
  4. WJM

    WJM Banned

    Drop the clutch at 7k in 1st gear and have the steering wheel at full lock in one direction.
     
  5. SonicBoom

    SonicBoom Active Member

    Set the DCCD to most rear biased it'll go and wait for some rain and a big parking lot....... Done it plenty of times.. The front is still trying to grip, so its not really like F&FTD.....
     
  6. Meredith

    Meredith Banned

    put 55 psi in your rear tires.... your car should "rotate"
     
  7. blindfold

    blindfold Active Member

    then you can come to SoG to replace your rear axles :D


    Watch a World Rally video and you should see the car slide
     
  8. WJM

    WJM Banned

    rear axles dont break...thats a myth.
     
  9. jayj713

    jayj713 Member

    Not trying to disprove you or anything but, what happened to that sti that dropped its clutch twice and then the 2nd time it just went clunk (cant find the video but it was posted here a while ago, the guy was like, "It's crying.").

    EDIT: nvm i found it, http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4945545771210383944

    EDIT2: actually wtf, that's not an sti... i think.
     
    Last edited: May 2, 2007
  10. WJM

    WJM Banned

    Its an STi...with WRX wing.

    must have been a defective axle.

    I've launched over 50 different STi's multiple times in multiple different configurations....nothing broke. Even with stickey race tires.

    One of my friends has an STi with over 600 full on drag launches with zero failures aside from the normal clutch wear.
     
  11. bluetwo

    bluetwo Active Member

    Man getting the back end loose is the easiest thing in the world to do, if you can use your brakes, accelerator and steering wheel just the right way.

    For example, if it were legal, you could do it on an entrance or exit ramp, by just reaching the apex of a corner while on the gas then suddenly letting off as quickly as possible and giving the steering wheel a little jerk (little or big, depends on how familiar you are with your car and how ballsy your are) and she'll step right on out. If there's any dirt on the side of the road this is greatly magnified and you'd have to use a lot of extra caution.

    Using the brakes... that one you just have to learn for yourself because I'd be all night trying to explain that one like this. But it's the same principle as with letting of the gas abruptly because all you do is transfer the weight off the rear wheels while at the same time putting more lateral load on them.

    I've learned to do a no-shit 4 wheel drift in my WRX so it should be easy with an STi, but of course it takes a LOT of doing. I was pushing my car to absolutely insane limits when I first slid with all 4 for an actual distance at high speed, and of course I have a complete suspension swap. There's more here if you wanna know how to do it right. :D http://www.wrxatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6380
     
  12. AK_Raptor

    AK_Raptor Member

    all i need to do is just turn the wheel and throttle boom drift action
     
  13. clemsonscooby

    clemsonscooby Active Member

    What he said, meaning get a good alignment. The car is meant to understeer from the factory, because there is a lot of negative camber in the rear. Reduce the negative camber in the rear to about -.5 to -.7 and increase the fronts to about -2 to -2.5 and have a blast. My WRX will oversteer on command at autox's with big rear bar and a good alignment.
     
  14. Nitro

    Nitro Active Member

    lolz:eek:hnoes:
     
  15. sti-mike

    sti-mike Member

    Also the rear sway bar should be on the stiffest setting...that will help a little
     
  16. monk

    monk <b>The Kitchen Ninja!!!!</b>

    dccd - open (that's rear bias right?)
    rear tires set to higher psi
    stiff sways
    coilovers set full stiff help
    lots of torque (reduces the need for momentum :) )
    high RPM clutch drops
    wet surfaces help (and save tread)
    don't forget you can lift-throttle oversteer the car pretty much on command with some practice and the above ingredients. just remember to use the throttle to get the car "back" after you've rotated "enough"

    but no, it'll never be full "drift" type action unless you get a rwd conversion done. which kinda defeats owning a subaru ;)
     
  17. EodSTI

    EodSTI Member

    thx for the advice it was raining i was in a open parking lot and had a wonderful evening finding my own limits with the car. It was awesome to say the least.
     

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