o2 sensor CEL

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  1. heathbar

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    So this weekend I did my best to fix an exhaust leak, one of the bolts on the 3-bolt flange between my header and uppipe was loose.

    While driving around afterwards, and a few WOT turns in 2nd gear, my CEL came on.

    It came up P0031 Front oxygen (A/F) sensor heater circuit low input.

    I searched on Nasioc, and most said replace the o2 sensor.

    Questions:
    Most importantly, is it cool for me to drive 600 miles this weekend to FL?
    Do I definitely have to replace it, or is there a cheaper solution?
    Out of curiosity, what could have caused this?

    Thanks guys! I'd rather ask here, people are actually friendly [gasp] :pssh:

    EDIT: SOG screwed me in the butt.
     
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  2. STiBottom

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    Low input could mean that your wire got a little too hot and could have melted. If you are not getting a voltage reading from the O2 sensor you will throw a CEL for sure.
    As for the driving to FL I am not too sure about. You might run lean or rich depending on what your ECU has to say about the situation.
     
  3. heathbar

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    anybody else? any foreseeable problems driving to FL and back?
     
  4. pEd

    pEd This ain't no Piccadilly!

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    I"m not 100% positive, but I believe that it'll put your car in limp mode after a period of time (not sure how long though).

    Also, you won't be able to use your cruise control either if you've got a CEL.
     
  5. cannarella

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    If you are getting that CEL and don't know what is going to happen I wouldn't risk a long drive. We all know Uf is going to be Auburn. :wtc: Watch it on TV.

    $80 for an O2 sensor is not bad. When Ped and I were putting in my exhaust the rear one was stripped and we had to drive all the way to SOG and pay $150. Good luck. Changing out that O2 shouldn't be that difficult. Just pulling the passenger wheel and removing the panel. Right?
     
  6. heathbar

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    What's limp mode?

    It would suck, but I could probably live without CC...
    That's not an option, I have tickets already. Plus 2 friends are flying into ATL and going with me (cheaper than flying to Gville).

    I could rent a car... Or hastily try and fix it.
     
  7. WJM

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    Dont drive to FL, replace it ASAP.
     
  8. heathbar

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    SOG got a front o2 in stock I can buy?
     
  9. WJM

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    Yes. Call for pricing, we usually have one in stock.
     
  10. heathbar

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    Thanks Will. What's the going rate for you to pop in the new one? Would you even have time tomorrow morning to do it? Should only take a few minutes to lift it up and do it, right?
     
  11. WJM

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    I can get you in and out under 30 mins...if you dont want your car washed. The new wash guy is pretty slow. I've got time so far that I know.

    Labor cost on it is right at $200 thru the shop.
     
  12. heathbar

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    Curious, what are the potential consequences? From what I've read so far, just bad gas mileage...
     
  13. heathbar

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    Damn, I just called SOG and it's $200! Is it made of diamonds?
     
  14. pEd

    pEd This ain't no Piccadilly!

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    Yeah, I didn't think the sensor was going to be that cheap.
     
  15. WJM

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    Well, bad gas mileage and in the long run you can ruin the engine with the excessive fule/lack of fuel at the wrong moments.

    It uses the sensor for closed loop fueling.

    The sensor is a precision part from Bosch or Nippon-Denso...its an OE wideband sensor.
     
  16. cannarella

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    Pay the money. You want it done right if you are turning around and leaving town and don't have time to wrench it yourself.

    I think this works now. Pick 2.

    Fast
    Cheap
    Reliable
     
  17. heathbar

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    Haha, I guess... nothing cheap about it...

    Just bought the sensor. For some reason it was 150, contrary to the 200 quote on the phone.

    I'll make time to put it in before I leave.

    Thanks guys!
     
  18. heathbar

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    Okay this is fan-f***ing-tastic.

    I went to SOG parts. "I need a 2005 wrx front o2 sensor for the exhaust manifold." [he gets it]... as I'm paying "just to double check, this is the one for the exhaust manifold?" "Yep."

    I get home tonight and luckily I decided to check the harness first. IT DOESN'T FIT!!!! Broseph gave me the wrong one. I don't know why, but the harness is a very similar size except for different indentions on the sides.

    Now I HAVE to drive to FL and back with the CEL and apparently a bad o2 sensor. F***k this shit, if something bad happens to my car I will be uber-pissed... It's not completely SOGs fault, but dammit they certainly didn't help...

    Wish me luck... :mad: :mad:
     
  19. WJM

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    Well....4 pin connector..right? is the sensor harness male or female?
     
  20. heathbar

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    ^^^ the harness is the right pin and all, but there are indentions on all four sides of it (outside), 1, 2, or none. kind of like ridges on a key, but the one i got is different from the old one. it won't fit... maybe if i shaved off all the ridges, but that can't be right.
     
  21. crashtke

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    That sucks bro...I have to say that I have bought brand new (oem) O2 sensors from a place called o2sensors.com or something similar fro 1/3 the price that the dealer wanted. I mean shit, I bought a whole new LC-1 WB 02 sensor AND the module for $215...that included the electronics AND the sensor AND the program to control it all...$150 or $200 for just the $50 bosch sensor is just a rip off from the good old Stealership.
     
  22. heathbar

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    thanks, I'll look into that.

    I made it back, and my car is fine (I think).
     
  23. heathbar

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    It's actually oxygensensors.com (at least that's what I found), and yeah it was a "good" deal at $150.

    Subaru didn't have the right sensor, so I had to get an actual saab part (GASP :eek:hnoes:). Jim Ellis wanted over $300!!! :fawk: $150 is easier to swallow...
     
  24. goixiz

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    which o2 sensor ? I have one for the exhaust (before the 3rd cat)
     
  25. heathbar

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    Nah, it's the one on the exhaust manifold near the passenger/front wheel.
     

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