Good street tires

Discussion in 'Modifications & DIY how-to' started by Cool_____, Oct 18, 2007.

  1. Cool_____

    Cool_____ Banned

    What are some good street tires? I want to keep the price to $100 per tire and have decent tread life. I'm leaning towards some Nitto Neogens. They seem to be the best performing tires in that price range with good mileage. The Kooks Ventus are another contender but I don't think I'll make over 20K miles on them. I know clemsonscooby had the Nittos and he had 25000 miles on them plus a full season of autox.

    Size will be 225/45/17.
     
  2. Matt

    Matt Think before you post Staff Member Supporting Member

    www.edgeracing.com has the Falken FK-452 on sale right now for 86/tire.

    I've had 2 sets of the 451 (prev. model) and loved them. GREAT grip, excellent in the wet, just a nice solid tire.

    edit: the 452 is in a 215-45/17 variation for 86/tire. It should still be under 100/tire for the 225 series

    :)
     
  3. Meredith

    Meredith Banned

    Dunlop SportZ1s..... they are 122 a tire....


    or RE01rs
     
  4. Cool_____

    Cool_____ Banned

    Both are over $100. I wished I had the money when the RE01R's were on sale at tire rack.



    2.5RS my buddy has the Falken 452's and he loves them. I may give them a try.
     
  5. BrianGT

    BrianGT Banned

    You need to pay to play :( RE01Rs and the new Dunlop Z1s are in a totally different league than the FK452s.

    I put some Dunlop Direzza DZ101 tires on my crx the other day at DT (really cheap!), and they are alright, not super sticky, but a decent compromise for a DD.
     
  6. Cool_____

    Cool_____ Banned

    How do the RE01R's fair on highway mileage?
     
  7. BrianGT

    BrianGT Banned

    We have 300 autoX runs and about 10k miles on ours and they are pretty much dead
     
  8. wrxin8or

    wrxin8or Mullitt Staff Member

    RE070's. God what a difference between these and some 205-55-16 bfg gforce sports
     
  9. Cool_____

    Cool_____ Banned

    Take the autox runs and add in road mileage.....what that equate to? 30-40K?
     
  10. 5spdfrk

    5spdfrk Active Member

    discount tire has a special right now. $100 off any set of 4 tires, plus they always have their free shipping to go along with that. could put some tires in your price range.
     
  11. gotsol

    gotsol Active Member

    I just put on Kumho SPT's. They are a pretty good "all-around" tire.
     
  12. BrianGT

    BrianGT Banned

    Some s2000 guys who have been running them have gotten around 30k out of them, which is great considering how grippy they are. They have a decent amount of tread on them when you get them new. We ordered our next set of RE01Rs shaved to 5/32nds, as we are only using them for autoX.

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    Brian
     
  13. Cool_____

    Cool_____ Banned

    Fuzions were okay on my Honda but I didn't like them for some reason. Kumho's are out of the question....I HATE the ones I have now.
     
  14. WJM

    WJM Banned

    Hankook Ventus RS-2 Z212. Right at 100~110 per tire.

    try edgeracing and www.tires-easy.com
     
  15. schneid

    schneid Member

    I have SPTs as well...I can say that the treadwear is phenomenal, wet grip is very good (lots of rain grooves). Can't really comment on the dry grip as my only comparison on my WRX is the RE-92s, lol.

    I will say that if you are looking for a DD tire that will last seemingly forever, get the SPTs
     
  16. Cool_____

    Cool_____ Banned

    Every set of Kumhos I've ever gotten has failed drastically for me. 2 sets had belt failures. One set constantly slow leaked. I've pretty much banned them for my car.
     
  17. schneid

    schneid Member

    wow...good to know. I want to try something else next time anyways
     
  18. Jewels450

    Jewels450 Member

    RE O1R's, great tires! nice and sticky;)
     
  19. nsvwrx

    nsvwrx Active Member

    Cooper Zeon 2XS. Great tires.. i personally think they feel better than the SPTs
     
  20. jayj713

    jayj713 Member

    Do all these recommendations apply for 245 width also? I have rota p45s so should i get 245/45/18?
     
  21. gotsol

    gotsol Active Member

    wow, I've had about 6 sets of Kuhmo's and no problems
     
  22. Cool_____

    Cool_____ Banned

    My first two sets on the old DSM were just fine. My WRX just doesn't like them for some reason.
     
  23. Matt

    Matt Think before you post Staff Member Supporting Member



    BLECH!!

    I had those tires on the car for about 4 months. I hated every minute of them.

    At least you like them

    :)
     
  24. scooby_snacks

    scooby_snacks Active Member

  25. mmtasty

    mmtasty Active Member

    my opinion is that the tires make the car. they are the single most important part. You can buy cheap/crappy tires, but you're giving up 20-30% of your car's handling/braking capabilities. It just doesn't make sense to do that. If you're really hurting and you just can't afford to have fun for the next 30K, I totally understand that. But if you're looking into other mods (power, suspension, cosmetics...) in the next 30K, you're pissing in the wind. When I build up a car I want to drive hard I start with buying great tires, then do brakes, then suspension... and so on.

    Just bite the bullet and get RE01Rs. You'll be happy you did.
     
  26. Matt

    Matt Think before you post Staff Member Supporting Member

    for a dollar less, you get the 452 from edgeracing...MUCH improved tire. the 512 has been discontinued, yet the price on it has increased...go figure. I've had friends who hated that tire. my buddy gets them for drifting....aka NO grip! ;)
     
  27. Meredith

    Meredith Banned

  28. scooby_snacks

    scooby_snacks Active Member

    I understand that the tyres make or break the car and these aren't the normal cheap ass tyres, it's just that there's a hell of a sale going on. I've got a friend with a 240zx who absolutely loves them which surprises about the drifting comment. I currently run G force sports for daily driving but their lifespan is reaching it's twilight years.
     
  29. scooby_snacks

    scooby_snacks Active Member

    Last edited: Oct 18, 2007
  30. gotsol

    gotsol Active Member

    what exactly didn't you like about them?
     
  31. Matt

    Matt Think before you post Staff Member Supporting Member



    coming from the 451, the grip in both dry and wet was horrible. they are a lot noisier than the other tires I've had, and a LOT more tire flex....I had them for 4 months and turned them in for full refund (the tire shop was supposed to have ordered the 2nd set of 451's within the 30 day trial period, but took them forever to get)
     
  32. scooby_snacks

    scooby_snacks Active Member

    What complaints did your mate have about the 512's? I read some problems about the soft rubber being a problem on the outer parts of the tyre, which does ring true as that's where the majority of where has taken place on my mates tyres.
     
  33. Matt

    Matt Think before you post Staff Member Supporting Member

    lack of grip was primarily the issue. they WERE a cheap tire, but like I said before, with them being discontinued, they upped the price :huh:
     
  34. scooby_snacks

    scooby_snacks Active Member

  35. Matt

    Matt Think before you post Staff Member Supporting Member

    those are about the same as the 512.

    if you're going with a Falken, the 452 is the best all around tire to go with.
     
  36. scooby_snacks

    scooby_snacks Active Member

  37. scooby_snacks

    scooby_snacks Active Member

    And by the way you're promoting them I assume you own the 452's Matt. I dunno, when I look at the pictures the sidewall looks like it has alot of void space, they look more like all seasons than performance orientated.
     
  38. BrianGT

    BrianGT Banned

    I don't know, I really like the RE-01R, and the Ziex 512 tires that came on my CRX were uber shitty.

    If you want to get any kind of performance out of your car, at least get a decent set of tires.

    I would eat nothing but Ramen for a week if it was the only way that I could save up extra cash to get decent tires. ;)
     
    Last edited: Oct 18, 2007
  39. scooby_snacks

    scooby_snacks Active Member

    I'm not trying to skimp out by any means, but I would rather save money than waste it. I have some bf goodrich g force sports that cost a fair amount and by no means will I skimp out. I'm simply trying to find out which is the better tyre while at the same time taking the price differences into account.
     
  40. Matt

    Matt Think before you post Staff Member Supporting Member



    I haven't gotten the 452's as of yet, but having 2 sets of the 451 (it's predecessor) and reading review after review of the 452 being better makes me a believer. I'm currently rocking a set of Toyo proxes 4 on the 17's and Hankook RS-2's on the 16's. I LOVE the RS-2's. the Proxes4 are ok....

    I'm saving up for a set of 452 (both of these sets of tires were free) ;) The tread pattern should prove that they are indeed a performance tire and not an all season.

    edgeracing.com has them for 86/tire in a 215/45-17 size.
     
  41. Matt

    Matt Think before you post Staff Member Supporting Member

  42. schneid

    schneid Member

    nm I got it..
     
  43. Cool_____

    Cool_____ Banned

    My buddy has the 452's and he likes them. Another friend also has the 512 and he says he likes them but they look horrible.....they look all skinny on his rims.
     
  44. mmtasty

    mmtasty Active Member

    that's not soft side rubber, that's sidewall flex in turns which will cause the outter edge of the tire to be eaten away. You'll get the same lifespan out of 360 treadwear with soft sidewalls as 140 treadwear with firm sidewalls. You can bump the PSI way up, but you'll only lose more grip by doing that.

    While we're working on getting you to buy real tires, I'd like to go ahead and rule out the Falken 615 fo you due to the need to drive it in the rain, even when it's getting worn down. They do not handle standing water at all!

    What about the Hankook RS2 or whatever that is? Those aren't that expensive and work well. Not great, but well.
     
  45. BrianGT

    BrianGT Banned

    RS-2 are decent in terms of grip, but the sidewall is soft
     
  46. Cool_____

    Cool_____ Banned

    Is there any way to look at specs and tell if a tire has stiff sidewalls or not?
     
  47. WJM

    WJM Banned

    How many plys the sidewall has....??? otherwise I dont know other than feeling it.
     
  48. scooby_snacks

    scooby_snacks Active Member

    :rofl: look I'm not trying to buy shitty tyres! I'm just trying to get info on all of the alternatives rather than just dropping a big chunk of change without checking out the whole market. The 615's look absolutely awesome and will probably end up on the autox rims at some point in the future. So far I'm leaning towards the 452's in 215/40/17. I currently have BF Goodrich G Force Sports in 215/45/17, will I notice much of an improvement?

    I still like these,

    http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findTireDetail.do?cs=215&pc=38451&rd=17&ar=40

    Especially when they come up $286 for all 4 shipped I lean towards them.
     
    Last edited: Oct 19, 2007
  49. calmnothing

    calmnothing Shlimp Flied Lice Supporting Member

    With coilovers do 225/45/17 or 235/40/17 if your wheels are big enough. You'll love the extra traction with the stiff suspension.
     

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