the reason behind the 'softer' sti?

could this be the reason? damn Toyota.. i never saw this coming, but i sure do like the idea of combining subaru engineering + toyota finess


http://blogs.motortrend.com/6229094...2009-toyota-celica-gt-four-alltrac/index.html

 

i like the idea of combining subaru suspension + toyota hibrid

 

interesting

 

I think that the whole reason the sti is softer, is that they want to appeal to a wider audience. Unfortunately, the average buyer isn't into hardcore sports cars.

 

fyi, scott kanemura who wrote that used to work for prodrive

 

I would buy it

 

so this info is pretty legit then huh

 

A mid-engined Suby? yes, please!

 

i think this new 'subieyota' should equip a double-wishbone structure at the front.. the only reason why i think the sti doesnt have the upper arm is because the rally version jumps 8 ft up in the air and has to absorb all the shock, and i dont think the upper arm would last doing jumps.

however, this is exactly why i am soooo excited about this new car; sti was always brilliant on the dirt, but not so great on tarmac (where we drive most of the time) because, well, it was engineered for off-road. but this new celica replacement utilizes the 'good bits' of the SUBARU and Toyota: there will be 2 versions offered, and the less powerful one will be powered by an n/a 2.0 boxer with REAR wheel drive, the powerful one equipped with a turbo boxer + toyota hybrid technology and AWD.

The thing that i`m mostly interested in is that they are re-locating the engine..:bowdown: I dont know if it's going to be possible with the AWD layout, but if it works out, we might have the MOST balanced subaru in history (although it's not 100% subaru haha). Just imagine how well a Front-Midship boxer AWD would handle...all that engineering + toyota gas mileage? i hope it goes onto production :sx:

 

i wouldn't go that far

 

this is the 4th or 5th time i've heard this. too often to be just a rumor

 

if the engine is going to be placed any where in between the two axles then the awd system won't be symmetrical anymore on at least one axle. Unless of course if they only use electric motors in just the front or the back and only gas on the other axle.

 

that's wut i would do if i was the engineer... have the boxer motor in the middle and the electric motor in front. Hell, that would be a really nicely balanced car.

 

just because it's a subaru motor does not mean it's going to be AWD. the article specifically states that it will be rwd, thus the engine can be as far back as they want to go and keep passenger space. I suspect it will be just behind or right on the front axles.

 

it says the 300 hp model will be awd and mentions electric motors for the fronts. Im sure by the time they go into production the two models will be very similar, I doubt they would make one fr and the of the mawd, thats practically making two different cars.

well, I take that back, look at the Lancer and the Evo

 

Where are they going to put the batteries in this hybrid/awd midship car?

I don't really trust hybrids just yet... but what about the turbo diesel subaru H4? That is a car I can get excited about~!