Has anyone put one on? The instructions make it look pretty simple but I see a lot of people on forums say that its a mother fuc&er. Is it that bad?
^^like you have ever done one. Yes they are a PITA and terribly crappy if it is the hard inlet like the aps. The perrin is not so bad cause it is flexible.
You could make it a lot easier by pulling the intake manifold (which some think is hard in itself). Like Techlord said, if you have an APS/Agency, it's going to be more difficult because it won't flex. If you have a silicon-based one, it'll be easier because it'll flex.
How long did it take you? Im not bashing you or anything but what do you do for a living? I am in a mechanical field and work on things occasionally LoL...I think I might could do it in less than an hour for sure. Hope so at least.
let's get a pool going. i'll put money saying you can't. lol i mean its pretty straightforward but its still a PITA to get to all the connections underneath the intake manifold. it really is SOOOO much easier to take the manifold off. but that will take longer than an hour
I will install it next Friday(Nov 13th) evening. I will bring this thread back up to top with pics of process.
Bring your car and inlet hose to the dyno day tomorrow and we can set up a stopwatch and betting pool.
Im back in town now..I pulled the inlet out the box got everything ready and looked at whats involved and decided to wait till my turbo comes in. I will do the turbo, injectors and inlet pipe in one go. If I am going to take intake off I might as well do all three at one time. The injecotrs look like a total B to do. I have never done them on the boxer. So Im sure it will be an experience the first time lol.
:rofl: I hope you know what you're getting in to. I have a feeling the GBOD's are going to own your life. FYI, waiting to do the turbo and injectors has nothing to do w/ the inlet hose (except where the hose connects to the turbo inlet). You don't need to pull the intake manifold for any of that. You may want to get some good tutorials on how to do injectors. If you don't have a good set of tools, you're going to hate life about half way through this swap. You'll also need new gaskets if you're pulling the intake. Get four, you'll want to replace the ones on top and bottom of the TGV's.
It is really more time consuming than anything. But make sure you have a good assortment of swivels, extensions, etc in a range of sizes...both 3/8 and 1/4.
Also, not sure if you've done this yet or not, but if you have a WRX you definitely need to change your uppipe in there as well
Ok so im not up to par with all the short hand..What is GBOD? And why would I have to change the gaskets under the TGV's if I pull the intake for better access to the inlet pipe? Tutorials are a good idea but hard to come by on the forums, most of the time people are just talking shit and flaming people for mistakes.
Wirelessly posted (From Your Mom's House) Green Brackets Of Death...they are called that for a reason. If I were you, I would be asking for someone experienced to come and help you.
lol - i mean this as no offense, but if you don't know what GBOD is (google it...), you really don't need to undertake this challenge. I forsee you breaking down your car as far as possible, getting stuck, then not being able to get it back together. I wish you the best, but as Cohen said (nice sig, btw), get someone experienced to help
GBOD is the first part, don't forget about the stock fuel lines and harness attached to the bottom of the manifold as that is always a good source of entertainment and muttered expletives.
I take no offense. In this internet forum world we really know nothing about each other. Like I dont know what you do or how mechanically inclined you are, same with you know nothing about me. I have never wanted to google GBOD as that was the first time I have ever heard of it. I have been a mechanic now for about 10 years, but I do not work on Subaru's or any car in my job. I have been an FSR for multiple companies for the past few years. The main vehicles I have been involved in are the MRAP's, HEMMTT's and a few PATRIOT launcher's. I know that it will be a pain but its only a car. It might take me a little while but it will get done. Im still waiting on the turbo so whenever that comes in, things will get done.
Ok after 5 minutes of reading on the GBOD's I dont think it will be that big of a deal. I seen a few times where people said its easy on the drivers side and take the turbo off to gain easy access to the right side. Its only brackets with a few weird angled bolts.
It really is not as bad as people make it out to be provided the right tools and some patience. Seating the injectors can be annoying. A little grease around the o-rings helps insure they don't bind or roll up.
Inlet is a biotch! I worked on it for like 2 hours tonight and im saving some more fun for tomorrow lol. I cracked one of my vacuum solenoids so I gotta go to Subaru dealership and get another. Perrin's instructions are way off.
I dont mind, thats why I posted it up. Its for the next guy who is trying one. The thing that F'd me up is the instructions and extra parts that came with the kit. If there were no instructions and all the hardware went for MY vehicle then I could have figured it out easy but this must have been a multi vehicle part kit.