Never thought I'd say this, but....I'd rock one http://www.motortrend.com/future/future_vehicles/112_1004_hot_version_of_new_ford_focus/index.html The only thing this car needs is either AWD, or RWD...But we both know neither one will ever make it into existence.
I think that we're supposed to be getting the turbo version over here. Would Shring sell the RS to buy one?
I never priced an R32 at a dealer, but it was my understanding from talking to others that out the door prices on R32's from dealers were closer to 40K than 30K?
I have to agree. Seriously, have you driven a ford lately? Most of their new technology still comes from other car manufacturers but at least it is a step in the right direction. Unlike epic fail Chrysler that hasnt really done anything innovative in years.
what makes you think that? The Golf R won't be here until the end of the production life cycle like the other two. oh and MKV R32's didn't sell well ever. there were many that sold for $28k. Sticker was $32k w/o navi MKIV Sold well, then slowed, then sold well at the end. Then they became unobtainium and commanded new prices when they were 1-2 yers old
What makes me think what? I just said the Golf R will be released later this year and it is a car I was drolling over yesterday.
Ford turned a complete 180 and is doing very well for themselves, and putting out quality products now. This car is coming to the U.S. next year.
I have other reasons for never owning a Ford, not their quality. Its similar to the reason I will never own a VW.
what makes you think the Golf R will be release later this year? I have it on pretty good authority that it won't
I thought it was to be released in Europe this year, no? I thought Tom said it was going to be released in the US as a 2011 model? I dunno...just saying I would pimp a Golf R
It is already out in Europe. Tom who? The Golf R is/will be pimp. If/when it arrives odds are it is a 2012 model. But then, what do I know I'm just some guy on the internet ;-)
I grew up a GM guy (at least in terms of the Big 3) but that has been changing since they became Government Motors. Ford has been impressing me more and more lately. Not only do I like the Focus, but I think the even the new Mustangs look good! If I were buying strictly on looks, I would buy a Focus over a new WRX any day of the week.
I honestly like the new Taurus SHO too if it wasn't $40K!! I've always loved the Euro model Foci but we always got the sorry watered down versions.
mmmmm....I'd love a MKIV R32. I would have bought one when they came out but I had just bought a 20th anniv.. It's been really hard for me not to get out of a Suby now that the price of them is in my range. And if they weren't '04 VW's that are mostly around 100K miles old and falling apart I would. But an AWD turbo Focus would certainly be the death of my Fozz. That or it would bring down the value of the '10 STi SE enough for me to get that. Either way, I'm excited to see what happens. And my next car won't be WRB.
After owning Ford's: cars/trucks and Subaru cars, at around 90k both have been "found on road dead", can't say one or the other is more or less reliable. I can't say I am impressed by Subaru other than they do provide a unique STOCK platform. They are slightly over engineered but definitely not over manufactured and do not seem to take well to modifications. The Sti is a very well designed and manufactured car but is pricey for what it is. The alternative WRX, quality wise, is no better or worse than any new Ford and the WRX 5sp transmission is no exception which seems to be designed to fail and by Farrrrrrr more expensive than most, or may I say any, Ford tranny to replace. Ford Europe has established itself for decades in Europe with vehicles they probably should have been selling here a while back. The European Focus and Fiesta are both well established platforms in Europe and with the current event of Fords come back, they have a huge opportunity to establish some big credibility and go head to head with the Asian sub compact performance market. In addition both the Focus and the Fiesta are consummate rally platforms with tried and tested awd/fwd drive systems that have been winning consistently. I wouldn't go as far as to say they would be incredibly reliable, but more than likely incredibly cheaper to work on than a Subaru and possibly pretty damn fun to drive!