New announcement from Subaru?

Discussion in 'General Community' started by rsutton1223, May 2, 2012.

  1. rsutton1223

    rsutton1223 Obsessed Supporting Member

    Any guesses? Just posted on FB.

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  2. longfury

    longfury Active Member

    Looks like they are going back to rally or maybe road racing with a factory effort.
     
  3. rsutton1223

    rsutton1223 Obsessed Supporting Member

    Yeah WRC was my guess.
     
  4. Sparta

    Sparta Active Member

    Yea there were talks of them making a return
     
  5. Jake

    Jake Active Member

    yeah my money is on WRC
     
  6. slowwrx

    slowwrx Supporting Member

    I'm sure they are going back to WRC there isn't really any reason for them to be building the new "World" engine if they aren't.
     
  7. longfury

    longfury Active Member

    Did the FIA force WRC to standardize on a inline 4 package?
     
  8. slowwrx

    slowwrx Supporting Member

    Yes 1.6 liter displacement limit. It may have to be direct injection I can't remember its been a while since I read the requirements and a quick search got me nothing.
     
  9. longfury

    longfury Active Member

    It just seems wrong to have a Subaru rally car without a flat 4 powering it.
     
  10. J_P

    J_P I like pudding pops Supporting Member

    The rumor mill has spinning the WRC return since it leaked the next STi (in 2014) would have a 1.6L which is current WRC spec. Should be a shorter wheelbase hatch too if that is true. I didn't realize WRC forced the inline 4. Wtf? Limiting displacement wasnt enough? That sucks.
     
  11. slowwrx

    slowwrx Supporting Member

    What would make you think it isn't a flat four.
     
  12. longfury

    longfury Active Member

    Uh, didn't the FIA mandate that all WRC entrants had to run an inline 4? I know that a few years ago that was something they wanted to do and Subaru was against it.
     
  13. slowwrx

    slowwrx Supporting Member

    Nope. Just 4 cylinder
     
  14. longfury

    longfury Active Member

    That is good to hear. I know that back before Subaru left WRC that the FIA was talking about it.
     
  15. rsutton1223

    rsutton1223 Obsessed Supporting Member

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  16. Jake

    Jake Active Member

    like the teaming up with PUMA. subaru edition drift and speed cats please
     
    Last edited: May 3, 2012
  17. J_P

    J_P I like pudding pops Supporting Member

    Nice marketing video, I'm not getting excited until I hear an official announcement regarding a return to WRC for Subaru.
     
  18. Jake

    Jake Active Member

    doubt any of these guys are capable of running WRC. and like was said before that would require them to develop an entirely new engine platform.
     
  19. rsutton1223

    rsutton1223 Obsessed Supporting Member

    Does it make me a ricer if I want that aero package?
     
  20. Jake

    Jake Active Member

    in those colors? yes

    otherwise? no
     
  21. J_P

    J_P I like pudding pops Supporting Member

    I totally agree none of these guys will be in WRC. What I was saying is the only announcement I am personally interested in is when they announce the new STi with a 1.6L and a return to WRC. Search around there have been rumors about the new STi in 2014 having a 1.6L and is part of the reason(supposedly) they were separating the impreza from the STi going forward. If they are going to be competitive in a return to WRC the new STi would need to be a short wheel base hatch.


    Unfortunately, all I can find now is saying it will be a 2.0L for 2014 :-( . I REALLY want to believe the rumor mill. I'll keep searching and post up if I find something more interesting. Although the renderings do look like a short wheelbase hatch.... just has .4L more displacement than what WRC allows.


    Here you go this was the article that got me excited about this:
    http://www.motortrend.com/future/future_vehicles/1107_subaru_wrx_to_go_its_own_way/
     
    Last edited: May 3, 2012
  22. Superdude

    Superdude Active Member

    I read a rumor today that the next WRX/STI will have an electric turbo and ditch the traditional exhaust-gas powered turbo.
     
  23. J_P

    J_P I like pudding pops Supporting Member

    Wouldn't that make it more like a supercharger?
     
  24. Superdude

    Superdude Active Member

    Superchargers run off a belt.

    somehow they're going to use an electric motor to spin the blades to the turbo, so the boost can potentially be an instant motion. it'll still need to build pressure, but if they can get the force out of the electric motor, it should build quickly. I'd don't know much about it.

    But the announcement it totally the about their Puma Sponsorship. "... we let the CAT out of the bag..."
     
  25. slowwrx

    slowwrx Supporting Member

    I doubt the new sti will be a 1.6 liter. They may build a limited run of special editions to get around the homiligation rules though.
     
  26. longfury

    longfury Active Member

    Yeah, you will see a limited edition to get homiligation and then the US model will have a 2-2.5L engine in it.
     
  27. integroid

    integroid Supporting Member

    The definition of a turbocharger is a turbine turned by exhaust gases. If anything, what you explained is more like a supercharger that isnt belt driven.
     
  28. FACE

    FACE Active Member

    This thread has made my day for some reason.

    Thank you.
     
  29. Superdude

    Superdude Active Member

    Fair enough. Like I said, I know little about it.
    Here's the link to the article.

    http://tinyurl.com/bskpatb
     
  30. Berzerklo

    Berzerklo Active Member

    http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/bmw-files-patent-for-electric-powered-turbocharger-tri-turbo-m3-still-a-possibility-ar119350.html

    This is not the first time I have heard of an electronic turbo. BMW filed a patent for one of those awhile back and it sparked some rumors of a tri-turbo M3. If Subaru is thinking about doing something like the BMW patent describes it is actually an honest to god turbo just with an electronic assist for better spool. The compressor and the turbine of the turbo are each on an individual clutch so they can engage/disengage independently.

    So if I understand this correctly, under no load conditions both clutches are open. Once there driver hits the gas, the compressor side will engage and will be driven by the electric motor. Then there will be some transition period where the turbine side will start to engage and the turbo will be driven by both the exhaust gasses and the electric motor. Once the turbo is at design RPM, the turbo is being driven solely by exhaust gasses, and electric motor in the turbo actually acts as an electric generator.


    So basically it is like an electronic/exhaust gas hybrid turbo. The Prius of turbos!
    Its a really cool idea... except this will make turbo upgrades a whole lot more expensive and tuning a whole lot more complicated.
     
    Last edited: May 4, 2012

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