Im trying to say that you like men. ? Honestly that im in awe people buy new ~$30k vehicles and drop another ~$15k in making their cars more unreliable and tank the value of their car. $45k can buy a few fast cars from the factory that will infinitely maintain value better and relaibility. Thats the way i look at it. Your car doesnt count, unless you dont get some sort of a shop discount and/hook ups.
I don't find it surprising at all. Name another car that I can build like this, take to the track, go mountain biking/camping and take my kid to daycare. People double the price of the GT-R's and other cars. Why is it weird to do it with a Subaru. Mine and this car are actually more the average than the high end. There are people who dump a lot more than we did into their builds. It all really comes down to what you want out of a car.
This is really accurate. Atlanta just has a lot more broke ass wannabe subaru owners who don't want to put any money into their car. Look at NY, Cali, Virginia, Texas, etc...there's way more Subaru owners with more mods on their cars than here. To each their own, but to shit on someone else's build is rather childish... Hell, there's more highly modded/built Subaru's in FLORIDA than here in Atlanta.
You can obviously do whatever you want with your money. I am well aware of the amounts of $$ people drop on cars, a couple of those higher end cars are in my family. $45k is still alot of money to spend on a car that needs short block refresh every ~50k miles. But if you are convinced a new built subaru is the only way to get the performance you desire, of course there is no arguing with that.
Judgmental much? Let the guy enjoy sharing his story. Personally I think its awesome. I hope it puts a smile on the owner's face each time they turn the key.
Who is shitting on the build? My only agruement is value. Im sure the car is plenty fast and turns a really fast lap time. Also obviousy i need a better job. Anyone hiring?
There is not another car that fits into my lifestyle with this performance. Trust me. I know. I searched out every viable option. Go on iwsti and look at the 08+ build threads. They make my car look mild.
It seemed as if you were shitting on it. Also: www.air-watch.com is hiring :rofl: (I laugh because there's at least 6 members of this community who work there...and I've got another 5 or so friends outside of here who work there.)
Yeah, my original post contained something where i said "cool results", which means i still think its a cool car and a cool build.
Value is relative. Mine has great value to me because I get to enjoy a build that fits into my lifestyle. A Z06 or BMW would have zero value to me personally as one can not fit my kid or my bike and the other is a lot more costly to mod. I would be in a GT-R if it was more bike friendly. Long story short...what you consider value is not what others do. Like I said before, there is not another car on the market that I can have this much fun with that fits into my lifestyle...for me that is TREMENDOUS value. No one mods a car and expects it to make them money...they do it because they love it. That makes your "value" argument irrelevant and screams of shitting on someone else's thread.
Ok, so i should have said "There is a whole lot more money spent on this car then the average tuner subaru, but cool results". I suppose thats alot less disputable then "god awful". Noted for the future.
Like I said before, check out the 08+ build threads on IWSTI and you will see that it may be more than is spent locally...but not on Subaru's as a whole.
And why do you have to say anything about the money spent at all (I actually spent much more overall so I guess that makes mine more than god awful)? If you like the numbers and the car...just say so. There is no reason to bring that aspect up at all.
Duh it went back to value which I tend to care about. All I saw when I saw that car was overall money spent through the life of the car and thought "man that must be one dedicated and/or driven owner to eat that much cost". I'm over this subject if you want to be.
People discuss things that surprise them, like the size of a tree, or the lengths people will go to ascertain certain goals. I am a surprised individual commenting about just that. You are smart enough to know this. Wtf are you still harping about. Cool car, bet its fast, I'm surprised to the lengths of action the owner took to ascertain his goal. I bet he is fun to party with.
He said he's over it. Let's drop it and move on. God forbid someone has an opinion that doesn't mesh with the rest of the community.
Looks like we have successfully shat all over this thread. Everybody takes different paths to some extent and we all have different perspectives. Why suck all the fun out of this? I enjoy living vicariously through other people's builds, because with my priorities where they are and my current income I won't be doing as much as quickly as say Robb or this particular build. That being said I've been enjoying my STi for about 7 years and during that time others have built monsters, sold them, and owned 4 cars since. All of this has helped me make decisions for my car. I don't see anybody hating here just sharing their opinions. Thanks for sharing.
That is exactly what I am saying just said much better than I did. There is no reason for "cool car but you are an idiot for spending that much money in my opinion" on a thread like this.
Yeah quote where i said that. Oh thats right you cant, and even though you assume i implied it, i didnt. You have a problem kid, and all i have is a personal opinion on what i thought. Get over it. Kudos to this car. Hopefulley you are more chill in person then online. Quite frankly you are a bit of a pissy bitch online and im dont trying to defend my one liner that stirred this thread to shit. Thanks. -Stephen
Sorry. I paraphrased. You obviously don't agree with it and that is fine. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. That doesn't necessarily mean you have to always share it. And I am sorry if I am coming off as bitchy online lately. It just seems there there are certain members on this forum that would rather post something negative than constructive or even helpful lately. That scares off new members and most of the people that are doing that on this board right now don't even own Subaru's anymore. We should be trying to attract new owners rather than acting like WRXAtlanta.com is just a sounding board for keyboard courage and saying whatever the hell we want. There is a lot of that going around lately. If I was over sensitive...so be it. I am just tired of certain things that have been going on around here that do not foster growing the community...rather acting like this is just a place to be negative. Just my opinion of course. - Robb
CTS-V Wagon Seriously though, you both have good points but I will never do it again. If I ever buy another Subaru, it will be strictly a race car. Rob, it is all good when the car is running but once the motor goes, the downtime of not having your car sucks. For me, the worst part of it was having to explain to my kids that Daddy's Zoom Zoom was broken again. They loved my Legacy....I think the best time I had with it was when it just the stock motor with the DeadBolt 20G.
IMO, you were trying to re-invent the wheel with that car. There's nothing wrong with that, but you get to a certain point that you're doing more harm than good with the vehicle. It's frustrating to no end, and I've seen how frustrated you got with that car. :\
I was actually chasing a number......and certain things like voltage drops on the FPCM which leans out the motor at 25+ psi does not do well.
I thought WRXAtl had a lot of thick skinned smartarses on here and we could express our genuine opinion and even accept bickering about it. Apparently opinions are no longer accepted. Oh well! Hey kinda sounds like the path America is going down now. This goes both ways.
Things have gotten a little weird in the last year, but you haven't been banned in quite awhile. I think you've been slipping.
I always figured that was like breaking up with your girlfriend after you hear she's going to dump you. :rofl:
Chasing #'s almost never end well. Except for me isn't that right CelticP? That aught to get his panties in a wad.
Hey, stop plugging my company without sending them my way. You are costing me referral money! hahahaha
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in the end, a car is only worth what someone is willing to spend (both while they own it, and when buying). PERIOD
What Trancetto posted is pretty accurate. However, in this situation I believe it is more of an issue with people not liking any opinion that differs from theirs. Some people are overly sensitive and think sharing a difference in opinion is hating. If everybody was the same there would be no conversation. Conversation is healthy and entertaining. A bunch of yes men (and women it seems) agreeing with each other makes for a very boring place.
Werd. I dont give a flying fuck what people do and dont want to spend money on, or anything else for that matter. Doesnt mean i cant be surprised at something out of the statistical norm and note it in a public post. Coulda worded it better for the thin skinners is spose. This is going to go down as my best thread derailment to date with fewest words used to begin said derailing haha. Honest to god, no hate ever intended even if that is how its perceived.