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  1. Trancetto

    Trancetto Active Member

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    Is it possible to get 400hp with 20g without meth on a 2.0?
     
    #1 Trancetto, Jun 30, 2010
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    no
     
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  3. 07Ltd#767

    07Ltd#767 The Neighborhood Drunk

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    yes, it's possible, but you're curve will be shit and it will be impractical. I've seen 400+whp VF43s, but the curve looks like a steep mountain top.

    So in all practicality, no
     
    #3 07Ltd#767, Jun 30, 2010
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    q16 and boost way outside of the efficiency range? yeah...its probably possible....


    reliably...probably no...
     
    #4 wrxin8or, Jun 30, 2010
  5. nsvwrx

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    As i said, you have stock internals and it wouldnt last long anywhere near 400whp.
     
    #5 nsvwrx, Jun 30, 2010
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    20g on 2.5L is even pushing it on pump
     
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  7. Trancetto

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    Not worried about reliability , I wanna break the tranny anyways, and buy a 6 speed, or built 5 speed. And 2.5 block is somewhere down the road also. So with a 20g, 93 octane, what numbers should i expect? And what numbers would I expect with meth?
     
    #7 Trancetto, Jul 1, 2010
  8. 07Ltd#767

    07Ltd#767 The Neighborhood Drunk

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    ~350 w/ the right supporting mods...~400 w/ meth
     
    #8 07Ltd#767, Jul 1, 2010
  9. Cool_____

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    I don't think so. You can't rev the car enough and the stock heads WILL not allow that much flow at the higher rpms. Maybe if you push the daylights out of it......at that point you will snap those pitiful rods.

    You need a big turbo that can push a lot of air EARLY.

    For comparison my 18g made 351 hp on pump and meth. So I can see the 20g only getting around 365-370 hp on pump and meth.

    Now on race gas MAYBE but you'll be pushing those rods to their death.
     
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    Why would you want to break the tranny?

    That's like dropping 500 dollars on the ground and walking away.

    I know of several 5 speeds that have survived more power than you are going to make with a 20g on a 2.0l. Just don't dump the clutch or flat shift and your tranny may survive.


    I don't think you'll make 400 with the 20g on a 2.0. The stock heads are going to limit you big time.
     
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    [​IMG]

    What's up and That's the TRUTH!
     
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  12. Trancetto

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    I'm not going to try to break the tranny, but if it does, im in situation where i can replace it the next day, some goes for the motor, so no worries there. I just wanna be in that 300+ mark, or low 400's. Might go with 18g, we will see.
     
    #12 Trancetto, Jul 1, 2010
  13. nsvwrx

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    Why not just go for the 2.5 then? Sell the good tranny and the good motor. No point in being hell bent and breaking two things that work--which could be sold for money towards the new, better tranny and motor. Why break them so they are useless? You will end up spending more money.
     
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  14. integroid

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    Wirelessly posted

    No way on pump.
     
    #14 integroid, Jul 1, 2010
  15. Trancetto

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    Simple, i wanna hit 400 on a 2.0. :naughty:
     
    #15 Trancetto, Jul 2, 2010
  16. integroid

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    buy a rotated kit and be done with it. Quit fooling around with a stock location turbo.
     
    #16 integroid, Jul 2, 2010
  17. Cool_____

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    You want 400 on a 2.0L on pump? Buy an Evo.
     
    #17 Cool_____, Jul 2, 2010
  18. Jake

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    sean (oneiguy) made 370/370 on a 20g and 93 on a 2.5l hybrid motor. technically thats over 400 at the crank, so it is possible with 2.0l heads
     
    #18 Jake, Jul 2, 2010
  19. Cool_____

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    ON A 2point5 block though. Broken wants 400 on a 2.0.
     
    #19 Cool_____, Jul 2, 2010
  20. integroid

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    wait a minute...are we talking whp or crank hp?
     
    #20 integroid, Jul 2, 2010
  21. Cool_____

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    He's talking wheel hp. No one in their right mind talks crank hp.
     
    #21 Cool_____, Jul 2, 2010
  22. oneiguy

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    LOL. It's not going to happen on a 2.0L. Just save your $ and do it right the 1st time. First order is tranny.
     
    #22 oneiguy, Jul 2, 2010
  23. oneiguy

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    But I have head work done as well.
     
    #23 oneiguy, Jul 2, 2010
  24. Cool_____

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    Let me guess....BC cams?
     
    #24 Cool_____, Jul 2, 2010
  25. oneiguy

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    Stock cams. Ported and polished heads and upgraded valve spring and retainers.
     
    #25 oneiguy, Jul 2, 2010
  26. Cool_____

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    Hmmmm GSC's and BAM 400 for you.
     
    #26 Cool_____, Jul 2, 2010
  27. oneiguy

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    Yeah I would like to, but got I got to have my priorities straight. Baby next month. So reacaro car seat is first. :)
     
    #27 oneiguy, Jul 2, 2010
  28. Cool_____

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    Yeah I hear you there. Working on one myself....which is why the M isn't supercharged already.
     
    #28 Cool_____, Jul 2, 2010
  29. oneiguy

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    Good luck. They are the best "mod" ever.
     
    #29 oneiguy, Jul 2, 2010
  30. RSConvert

    RSConvert ɹǝuɹnʇpɐǝɥ uʞnɟɐɥnɯ ɐ sʇı
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    370 on a really conservative tune, yeah?


     
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  31. oneiguy

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    Yeah not even on 19lbs
     
    #31 oneiguy, Jul 2, 2010
  32. RSConvert

    RSConvert ɹǝuɹnʇpɐǝɥ uʞnɟɐɥnɯ ɐ sʇı
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    ^So how much do you think your engine would can really put down?
     
    #32 RSConvert, Jul 2, 2010
  33. FTZ

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    I believe the Recaro Baby Seats are front facing, so you can't/aren't supposed to use them with a newborn.
     
    #33 FTZ, Jul 2, 2010
  34. Weapon

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    Just have Scott Seigel work his magic....I keed I keed
     
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  35. oneiguy

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    RS - don't really know. Ped did 398 same setup. He has ewg and is a Sti.
    Jason - I know its not for a while.
     
    #35 oneiguy, Jul 2, 2010
  36. Trancetto

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    Thx for all the input.
     
    #36 Trancetto, Jul 2, 2010
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