Up pipe install?

Discussion in 'Modifications & DIY how-to' started by FrankenSTI, Mar 29, 2006.

  1. FrankenSTI

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    :bowdown: I have a crisis my stock up pipe has gone to shit, and I am supposed to leave for florida friday night. Im going to buy one today and I need to know what all is involved in the install so that i can have topspeed flash it before i leave. They are to busy to put it on. So any kind of help would be useful. I have heard that it is a pain in the ass.
     
  2. rolling_trip

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    UP and DP gaskets are needed. you must pull the downpipe to get to the uppipe. don't for get the PB Blaster. if you feel like driving up to college park i wll help
     
  3. clemsonscooby

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    I can help also, but this is a long job. I have all the tools needed. If you can't unbolt the bottom engine mount, this will be an even longer job because you will have to remove the turbo manifold. I think this is the instructions that I used: http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194. I definitely wouldn't start without some help though if you have never done this install. This was the first install I did, and it took much longer than the 8 hours.
     
  4. WRX-WRC

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    what exactly do you mean your UP has gone to shit?
     
  5. FrankenSTI

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    Thanks guys I will let you know if I need further assistance.
     
  6. goixiz

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    I will eventually need to replace my uppipe and Exhaust manifold (with PPC version.) Why is the DP needed to be removed. I bought all new gaskets from engine to Turbo but i didnt get the turbo to DP gaskets
     
  7. moose

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    The DP needs to be removed because two of the nuts for the UP are conveniently located under it. :)
     
  8. FrankenSTI

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    Any one know where i could find an aftermarket up pipe. Does SOG carry them.
     
  9. Weapon

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    yes they do..send Scott a pm..
     
  10. WRX-WRC

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    you still havent answered my ?, how has your pipe gone to shit?
     
  11. FrankenSTI

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    Doug at topspeed dynod it and said it seemed like it was clogged. Now it has an exhaust temp CEL
     
  12. WRX-WRC

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    you are running a catted UP on a tuned car?
     
  13. FrankenSTI

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    Doug at Topspeed sadi it might be clogged.
     
  14. clemsonscooby

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    If you can't find an aftermarket uppipe, you can always buy mine and gut it.
     
  15. FrankenSTI

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    I have a stock uppipe sitting at home in the garage as well. Let me know if you are interested.
     
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    if you run higher exhaust temp with a cat in the UP if gonna melt all sorts of stuff.
     
  18. Deke

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    where is the best (cheapest) way to obtain uppipe gaskets?
     
  19. bassplayer

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    i wouldnt risk cheap on gaskets. especially right there where all of the engine movement likes to loosen bolts. go with the Cu-Seal gaskets at www.crucialracing.com. definitely worth it.
     
  20. goixiz

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    You are asking for trouble (OP)
    If running uppipe with mods is a dangerous game.
    When the EGT goes up the cat in the UP may start to fail and when it does pieces of it is goin right into "you know what". and if its small enough it may go through and then guess where it ends up ?

    If the UP "has gone to shits" I would still check the UP for broken parts and start tracing if the parts are still in the turbo or maybe your IC is catching it. Once it goes past IC
    start looking for a new engine
     
  21. moose

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    I think it'd require an act of god for the uppipe cat to end up in the IC or engine. :) (Think about it...)

    I used stock Subaru gaskets (new ones of course) and no leaks in around 12k miles with a solid uppipe.
     
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    please explane to me how a piece of cat on the exhuast side is gonna end up in the ic from the compresser side??? if the turbo passed a piece of cat from the UP it would end up in the DP.


    *damn moose you beat me too it. lol
     
  23. goixiz

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    no eplanation needed
    brain fart. the exhaust stream and intake stream is totally separate. but if the UP cat kaputs it will be new turbo

    i was thinking crap from intake and BOVs all day
     
  24. moose

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    I suppose if you had some SERIOUS shaft play and REALLY worn out bearings. :p
     
  25. WrxCrazy

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    lol.. if i was you i wouldn't worry much, get a up pipe without cat and u will be fine..
     
  26. FrankenSTI

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    Thanks for all the input guys.
     
  27. Deke

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    alright, rephrase, if i want oem gaskets, where is the cheapest place to get them, SOG?
     
  28. scuby drew

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    i think they are about the same at different places, i got mine at sog, wasnt too expensive, maybe 30 bucks totall
     
  29. FrankenSTI

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    Well guys I put on my up pipe last night and cranked it up and now at 5000 rpms ther is a loud rattling noise coming from the turbo. Any ideas what it is?
     
  30. goixiz

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    what uppipe did you get ?
    If you get one of the gutted or a used sti - check the heat shield. they are only tacked on at several places and ive seen a few of the tack(welds) coming apart. or maybe you have a part too close to each other.

    5k rattle - on the road or stationary
     
  31. FrankenSTI

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    Both, its not a heat shield it definetly sounds like its coming from the turbo.
     
  32. WRX-WRC

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    you still running a cat in your UP?
     
  33. FrankenSTI

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    No I put a hks one on last night.
     
  34. goixiz

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    did you check your existing (old) up
    for damages and chunks missing that went into turbo ?
     
  35. FrankenSTI

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    No but i will
     
  36. WrxCrazy

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    no chunks will go into the turbo side or anywhere u should be worried abt..
     
  37. WRX-WRC

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    shady, it is possible that some cat material melted and seperated and went into his turbo.
     
  38. WrxCrazy

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    since these materials r not suppose to melt in anyway, how can this be possible?
     

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