Valve Replacement

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  1. Timberwolf0924

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    How do I replace the valves on my 04 STi it has a very loud ticking from the left side after I replaced my Timing belt/water pump/thermostat. A costly job but I did it myself to save some money, now that all thats done I need to find out how to replace a valve, it ticks and I've been told that could be the problem. The STi did tick slightly before hand but now it's twice as loud. A link w/pics would be helpful also.

    Thanks in adavace.
     
  2. Kokopelli

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    It maybe something as simple as one of the belt guides that are over/under the cam gears has come loose.

    You should pull the covers back off and check.

    Hopefully its not a valve as that is very labor intensive repair.
     
  3. Timberwolf0924

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    I donno.. I made sure they were all tightened down and it's been ticking ever since then. I'll get up a video of it or audio of it that way we can see whats going on..

    Thanks,
     
  4. Jake

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    How many miles are on the motor. I know they recommend replacing the pulleys and guides when you do a motor swap so maybe some are just bad and need to be replaced. Otherwise replacing a valve I think would AT LEAST require pulling the entire motor and removing your cams. I would also recommend replacing ALL the valves vs doing just one.
     
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    nicad Yes I am a troll

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    you have to remove the heads. the valves only come out one way :) (hint: through the combustion chamber)
     
  6. Timberwolf0924

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    i have 69K miles on it, and I have already changed all belts, and all pullies on it. costly.. right over $700 for everything, including water pump and thermostat..
     
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    What prompted you to do the timing at 69k?
     
  9. Timberwolf0924

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    Water pump seized up and caused timing belt to melt. it wrapped around all pullies/tensioners and caused one to explode, throwing time off. Luckly it didn't over heat and holds pressure and everything runs great, except powersteering and the weired new ticking I got..
     
  10. Jake

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    Hmm yeah I'd be willing to bet that there was some sort of damage to the heads. I would do a compression and leakdown test just to make sure. Depending on how long/ hot the heads got they themselves could be warped...
     
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    After hearing about the timing belt I am surprised your car runs at all.

    It is an iteference engine and the valves can hit each other or the pistons when a timing belt goes like yours.
     
  12. Slowsoul

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    What holds pressure? The cooling system? Or the combustion chambers? I would say that there is a 99% chance you have damaged your heads. As Liquid mentioned, it is surprising that it is running at all.

    Are you in gainesville? I see an 04-05 with WRC decals at Lams all the time...is that you? I would be happy to come by and take a look at it for you.
     
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    I have never seen a timing belt explosion that didnt lead to at least bent valves.
     
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    Yeah generally if this happens you're almost always completely SOL. Looks like you got lucky, at least in a way.
     
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    Other than what is already mentioned, you may have a valve bucket that is worn down so much that it causes a noisy valvetrain.
     
  16. Timberwolf0924

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    Yea that's me.. I work/run the place lol. I'd be really appricitive of help. I do plan on taking it to SoG when I get the rest of what I bought paid off. But anytime you want to come by I'll be here (except next Tuesday, my day off, though I live in town)
     
  17. Timberwolf0924

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    Slowsoul

    Thanks for coming over and helping me. I've still no pin-pointed the location but your idea did help alot. Also good luck on rebuilding that other car, as you've said. I had to be lucky to be able to even drive my car..

    Thanks again..
     
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    I hate to say it but I think this will not end well
     
  19. Slowsoul

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    Yeah, after hearing that tick in person it definately sounded like some interference was going on in that right side head. You might have only bent the valves a tiny bit, which might explain why you are not seeing a huge difference in performance. To be sure, you should do a compression test on the motor if you have a bent valve it will show up.

    Oh, and we got that Audi back together about a month ago...it is running fine, but we did have to compelely rebuild both heads. I only mentioned it because it was really weird to see another car that the pulleys siezed up on.

    Never seen that before.
     
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    Leakdown test would be even better.
     
  21. Slowsoul

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    Yes it would be more accurate to help him pin point wether it was the intake or exhaust valves that are damaged (or both), but in this case, I think that a compression test is all that is necessary. Considering the circumstances, if low compression shows up on either one of those two right side cylinders, I think it would be safe to assume that the valves are bent. It doesn't matter which ones are bent. No matter what he learns from a leak down test, the heads have to come off.

    Don't get me wrong, I agree that a leakdown would be better, but a compression test usually comes before a leakdown...and it is easier to do.
     

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