3" Cobb down pipe or 4" InVida ?

Discussion in 'Modifications & DIY how-to' started by FaRt0fwAr, Oct 6, 2011.

  1. FaRt0fwAr

    FaRt0fwAr New Member

    2011 WRX with the SPT Ex.

    Do I have to tune it (Access-port) ? OR can I just run it stock?

    Thanks!
     
  2. jchon3

    jchon3 Supporting Member

    I'm not exactly sure what you mean "run it Stock" but..
    Any aftermarket downpipe will require a tune.
    The power is in the Tune.
    You can do this through either an Accessport or a pro-tune.
     
  3. WRXbryanATL

    WRXbryanATL Member

    you can run the stock tune, but you'll throw a CEL and wont be getting full potential.
     
  4. Jake

    Jake Active Member

    and your gas mileage will start to suck because the car will start to run rich to compensate for the change without a tune
     
  5. CoquiSubi

    CoquiSubi Member

    This is correct as far as the CEL. Some cars are more sensitive than others but if you get rid of the CAT the rear o2 sensor may or may not like it. I had to get an extra piece to mount the o2 sensor to trick the ECU. It wont affect much since the ECU doesnt use the rear sensor for adjusting.

    As far as the car running rich because of a downpipe i have never heard of that. You will have more back pressure cause a crackle pop sound but, you arent adding any extra fuel.

    If anything shouldnt freeing up airflow in your exhuast make you lean out because now the intake is able to suck in a little more air? I think a tuner would be better to answer this question.
     
  6. Cool_____

    Cool_____ Banned

    Actually the rear sensor is used for long term fuel adjustment. Is it critical? NO. But your fuel mileage will suffer a bit.
     
  7. slowwrx

    slowwrx Supporting Member

    There is no 4 inch downpipe available, so Ill assume you mean the bellmouth at the top of the downpipe.

    The Cobb is a very nice part but is very expensive. The invidia is a close second in quality and half the price. I almost always recommend the invidia to customers.
     
  8. nik_05STi

    nik_05STi Member

    There are other options as well. I have SPT catback with helix downpipe.
     
    Last edited: Oct 12, 2011
  9. Jake

    Jake Active Member

    doesnt have as much to do with the downpipe as changing variables in the ECU. when the ECU has changes, it adds fuel to compensate for a change. the manufacturers do this to cause the cars to run safe if there is some change in the variables. rich is safer than lean
     
  10. brownhelmet1

    brownhelmet1 Member

    i have the cobb 3" DP with accessport.... you need accessport or pro-tune unless you like looking at a check engine light and a 4" DP is a little much for a stock turbo i think maybe a little over kill for even a 35r
     

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