Chris's Brighton Swap

Discussion in 'Member Journals & Project Build Stories' started by ChrisW, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. ChrisW

    ChrisW Member

    Chris's Brighton Swap (Updated 2/25)

    Car is now being parted out
     
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2013
  2. ChrisW

    ChrisW Member

    Current parts:


    02 EJ205 dressed longblock
    Sti rods
    King race bearings

    4 inch downpipe
    3 inch catless turboback
    98 RS 5 speed tranny
    02 Wrx crossmember
    04 Wrx Wagon sways
    02 Wrx axles/rotors/springs/struts/brakes
    02 Wrx driveshaft
    Legacy Snowflakes

    02 Wrx complete dash/interior
    02 Wrx wiring harness (bumper to bumper w/ all sensors and ecu)
    02 Wrx steering column w/ignition, clock spring w/controls
    04 Sti steering wheel
    02 Wrx pedal box






    To Do list:
    Merge tranny harness
    replace shifter bushings
    Align steering wheel
     
    Last edited: Mar 26, 2012
  3. ChrisW

    ChrisW Member

    Heres where I started:

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    The car needed a windshield, so that was the first thing I had done (thats not me):

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    Over the months, Ive watched the various forums and craigslist for what I thought to be cheap/good deals on parts. I used rs25 stickies as a guide for what I needed to be on the lookout for. Most of my engine/interior stuff came from a wrecked 02 bugeye, my tranny came from a junkyard, and my wiring came from nasioc. Osbourne519 really hooked it up with the majority of the engine/interior parts.



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    $20 with y pipe and recirc
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    from junk yard, still full of clear fluid, shifts fine
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    Last edited: Feb 11, 2013
  4. ChrisW

    ChrisW Member

    and so it begins...

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    For some reason I had a red painted driveshaft? Top is stock auto, bottom is wrx 5spd, notice the slight length difference.

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    Interior removed, WRX pedals installed.

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    NA crossmember and front suspension removed.

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    Comparison of fuel pump assemblies, impreza on left and wrx on right.

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    And this is what happens when someone steps in your oil waste pan before you have a chance to dispose of it........

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    I wonder which way they went...

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    Last edited: Nov 6, 2011
  5. ChrisW

    ChrisW Member

    Painting the Wrx stuff:

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    Thanks Talktojin for the great deal on the wheels

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    Finally got all the timing cover stuff I needed from B reel

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    4in to 3in exhaust compared to stock
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    Got this hood for cheap, in pretty decent condition. Needs paint and has a small dent down on the front left. Heres a test fit

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    Interior stuff

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    Last edited: Jan 31, 2012
  6. ChrisW

    ChrisW Member

    Well, after a failing hard from a bad bearing the 1st time around, the car is back up and running (sans knock)! Lots of thanks to B reel for his time and energy getting my shortblock done.

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    This is the very first start up attempt. Sorry for the terrible audio
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    Last edited: Feb 25, 2012
  7. yerrow

    yerrow Active Member

    good lookin'!
     
  8. Eco Auto Clean

    Eco Auto Clean Active Member

    That's awesome and LOL at oil feet print!!
     
  9. liltoua

    liltoua Member

    Awesome build man! Your gonna have to come over and do my dash swap? haha. I want to do one, but don't want to deal with the wiring on it lol
     
  10. ChrisW

    ChrisW Member

    The wiring has been 100% plug and play so far, Im trying to swap every single electronic thing I can to cut down on things needing to be merged. I think Ill only need to merge the:

    rad fans
    wiper motor
    door ajar sensors
    door speakers
    e brake handle ground
    headlights
    tail lights
    transmission (speed sensor and the 2 tranny plugs, should be too bad)

    Im sure Im forgetting something, hopefully its something small
     
  11. Jake

    Jake Active Member

    awesome progress, keep the thread up to date! looking good!
     
  12. ChrisW

    ChrisW Member

    Thanks!

    No progress to report today, I spent over 3 hours trying to remove a stripped bolt that holds the motor mount to the cross member. Its in such an odd place I cant get to it with the angle grinder... My ears are ringing like crazy today after using impact tools for that long, I will wear hearing protection from now on!

    lol
     
  13. lsnaple

    lsnaple Member

    Sweet!
     
  14. ChrisW

    ChrisW Member

    Well, it's ready to try a test crank. All I need to do is figure out where the clutch pedal ground is and hook it up. Ill hopefully try tomorrow afternoon, I'm going to record it. Wish me luck!
     
  15. ChrisW

    ChrisW Member

    Does anyone know how to override the need to press the clutch down to crank the car?
     
  16. liltoua

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  17. ChrisW

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  18. liltoua

    liltoua Member

    Let me know how it goes!
     
  19. ChrisW

    ChrisW Member

    Ended up checking a few connections and taking the night off. I can't get it to turn over yet, the relay clicks but the starter doesn't turn. Probably a ground I missed, I've still got a good bit of wiring connections to do before I can make legitimate try at starting it. Just need pace myself!
     
  20. ChrisW

    ChrisW Member

    Well, i guess i have a small update. I've not worked on the car in several weeks, I've yet to crank it.

    I've been tracing down grounds and I think I have them all, I may need to check and see if the starter is getting the correct voltage. Does anyone know what voltage should be getting to the black pillar on the starter? It's the yellow wire, not the one going to the battery.
     
  21. ChrisW

    ChrisW Member

    Ok, figured out the starter issue (thanks B reel).

    Connected all the vacuum lines, pulled the ignition fuse, then turned it over a few times to prime the turbo and what not. After adding the fuse back, I tried several times to crank the car with no luck. It was backfiring like hell so at least I'm getting some spark and fuel. Battery was getting low so I put it on the charger and called it a night.

    Tomorrow I'll add some fresh fuel and clean the plugs and see what happens. Does anyone have any advice to get this thing cranked for the first time?
     
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2012
  22. Banana

    Banana Member

    Fresh gas will certainly help, but backfiring usually occurs if the timing is off.
     
  23. ChrisW

    ChrisW Member

    The timing lined up perfectly, would there be any other reasons for that?

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    I'm running an open 4 inch down pipe right now, could the lack of back pressure be causing it?
     
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2012
  24. Banana

    Banana Member

    You're running a turbo, so backpressure doesn't really decrease running only a downpipe
     
  25. ChrisW

    ChrisW Member

    I mean lack of back pressure with open dp versus full turboback exhaust.
     
  26. liltoua

    liltoua Member

    Maybe a grounding issue? I know when putting everything back together, I missed a couple grounding points that caused my car not to start. Just a starting point....
     
  27. ChrisW

    ChrisW Member

    That was the first thing I checked, Im almost positive that all of my grounds are connected. I hope its a fuel/plug issue and not something serious.
     
  28. liltoua

    liltoua Member

    Wait your fuel pump is priming right?
     
  29. Banana

    Banana Member

    The turbo creates enough back pressure, running open downpipe versus full exhaust won't make the difference of why it's not starting. I started my old setup before I made my downpipe (twinscroll with USDM catback) and it ran, just really loud.

    Start off with the FACTS

    Fuel
    Air
    Compression
    Timing
    Spark

    If you are certain Fuel and Spark is good, that leaves Air, Compression or Timing.
     
  30. liltoua

    liltoua Member

    ^^ the man speaks the truth =)
     
  31. ChrisW

    ChrisW Member

    Ok, I know the fuel pump is priming for a fact. I will pull the fuel line off the manifold and try cranking it just to verify that fuel is actually reaching the engine bay. I will also add fresh gas today.

    The intake isnt collapsed, I worked the tgvs before installing them so hopefully theyve not locked up since then. The throttle cable/body are both working fine.

    As far as compression, I did a leakdown test before installing the engine and it was good. If all else fails I will buy a gauge and do a true compression test.

    Timing? I guess that will be the last thing I check if I have to pull the engine back out.

    I can ground the plugs on the frame one at a time and turn it over to check for spark, right? I highly doubt I messed this up but I have read about people putting on coil packs in the wrong place, Ill take a look at that too.

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    I do get a slight car exhaust smell in the garage when Im trying to crank, plus its back firing, so it must have fuel and some sort of spark, right?
     
    Last edited: Jan 25, 2012
  32. ChrisW

    ChrisW Member

    Ok, good news and bad news.

    Good: Car cranks

    Bad: Idles rough as hell, also has a deep banging sound on passenger side.

    CELS:

    P0340 Camshaft Position Sensor (plug was crushed, will fix tonight)
    P0031 Front oxygen (A/F) sensor heater circuit low input (this is the one after the cat from what ive been reading, not concerned with it ATM)

    all of these are surely because I am running my original gas tank
    P0463 Fuel Level Sensor A Circuit High
    P0447 Evaporative Emission Control System Vent Control Open



    I was told the short block was inspected prior to me purchasing it, I think its coming from cylinder 3. The heads were in tolerance and from AllPro so it cant be that.



    This all sounds like shit news but I am kinda relieved that the wiring is correct enough for the car to crank. I can finally start replacing the interior and buttoning things up. If I cant get it to stop making the horrific noise Ive already got a 257 :naughty: shortblock to replace it with. Ill make a video of the noise tonight if I cant get it figured out.



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    Rod bearing is F'd, looks like the engine is coming back out. At least all the wiring is done, I can finish the interior while I'm waiting on parts.

    The question is...... Should I do rods and pistons in the 205 short block or go ahead and replace it with a 257 short block?
     
    Last edited: Jan 25, 2012
  33. ChrisW

    ChrisW Member

    Finished the interior today, everything came together rather nicely. I'm pulling the enginethis coming week and hope to have it back in the car by mid February.

    Pics coming shortly
     
  34. ChrisW

    ChrisW Member

    Pulling the engine today, getting it fixed over the weekend and I should have it back the following weekend. I got the interior in, pretty nice dash gap on the sides but that was expected. I think Im going to cut some plastic and mount it in the gaps.

    Also did some work on merging the lights/wipers/rad fans. Ive added 2 pics at the bottom of the op to show the interior. Ill add some more of the engine damage once I figure out exactly what it is.
     
  35. liltoua

    liltoua Member

    I was going to do a dash swap until someone stole all the wiring I had from my WRX donor car. I might plan on that in the near future. Hope you get the engine sorted out.
     
  36. ChrisW

    ChrisW Member

    Thanks man, Im sure Ill get it sorted out eventually. In hindsight I should have just had it rebuilt before installing it, but I was told it had been inspected prior to me purchasing it. Thats what I get! :hsnono: I needed to clean up the firewall from where I hacked it up anyways, having no engine will make that easier.

    I heard you were finished with your swap, we'll have to meet up sometime so I can see it in action!
     
  37. Jake

    Jake Active Member

    if you have a 257 ready to go, why waste the money rebuilding the 205 back to anything other than BUILT??
     
  38. ChrisW

    ChrisW Member

    Using the RS tranny or I would.

    I was saving the 257 to go with a 6 speed down the road but Im getting rid of it this weekend.
     
  39. CelticPride

    CelticPride Banned

    The EJ205 will be way more reliable than the Ej257.
     
  40. Jake

    Jake Active Member

    this is true, but didn't see the reasoning behind fixing a broken engine when you had a running engine waiting to go in
     
  41. ChrisW

    ChrisW Member

    That is the most logical thing to do, youre right Jake. Im just ready to get this thing on the road and I figured the 205 would be my least expensive option for the time being. This car will be a daily driver, at the most it will get is a tbe/injectors/vf39/fuel pump/ap.

    The 22t or 257 hybrid w/ 6 spd will come down the road :naughty:
     
  42. ChrisW

    ChrisW Member

    Went beast mode and got the engine pulled and broken down in about 4 hours tonight. I found out that the timing hadn't slipped and all the valves and cylinders still looked good.

    The short block is getting broken down this weekend and getting new bearings. Maybe I'll have it fixed, dressed, and installed by the 12th or 19th ::wishful thinking::
     
  43. Cory

    Cory Member

    I rebuilt my 2.0 in a few days (first time doing so). It is not hard as long as you have done the proper research and have the factory torque numbers and some time. Proper clearances! King bearings! AllPro!
     
  44. ChrisW

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  45. ChrisW

    ChrisW Member

    Alright, ended up using Wrx rad fans so no merge was needed there. Let the car idle for 30 minutes and changed the oil. I found out that my steering rack is shot, dumped an entire reservoir of fluid onto my garage floor so that's gotta get swapped out.

    Car is coming out of the garage tomorrow for the first time since August (under its own power lol) and I'll drive it around in the drive way a little, the brakes and clutch master need adjusting. More to come
     
  46. Trancetto

    Trancetto Active Member

    o.o seems like a lot of work


    nice
     
  47. xjustinx

    xjustinx New Member

    Good Job!
     
  48. ChrisW

    ChrisW Member

    Got a new crossmember from Mike @ killshot, start removing mine, and sure enough one of the 4 frame bolts that hold it on is spun. I guess I'll work on getting that off this week, probably gonna be a huuuge pita. Looks like my tranny needs a rear gasket too, fun stuff!
     
  49. ChrisW

    ChrisW Member

    Got around to finishing things up this past weekend, finally drove it around the block today! It drove really well, just gotta start tying up the loose ends now (ie wiring in speed sensor and replacing shifter assembly). I'll make a better video in the next few days.

    The end is in sight!
     
  50. ChrisW

    ChrisW Member

    0447 evaporative emission control system vent control low input

    1400 fuel tank pressure control solenoid valve circuit low input



    Anyone know anything about the 0447?

    Got the TGV fixed already, swapped the sensor with a spare.

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    Last edited: Mar 28, 2012

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