I have been reading alot of threads here and on NASIOC about the 20g and when it spools on a 2.0L. Here is my weird request. Does anyone have a WRX or STI that hits full boost at about 3800 to 4200 that I could ride in to see if I wanted a turbo that spooled that late or not?
by the way I keep hearing people talk about Meth, forgive me for my stupidity, what is it? and were can You get it?
I believe TD05. There aren't that many 2.0's with meth to compare against. It was an EXCELLENT driver... SS
What issues should a person think about if they want this big of a turbo as far as installation and operation? Like is there a good unit that's water cooled that is more or less a direct replacement? I'm seriously thinking about going big too but I can't seem to find that much info on exactly what turbo to consider.
i like the deadbolt turbos... the zilla series have the option of either just oil cooled or oil and water cooled
So Deabolt Zilla's huh? http://store.yahoo.com/mauromotorsports/dezi20gtuwr.html I'm gonna have to look into that.
We're direct with Deadbolt. We can get you DB turbos with either no shipping, or less than shipping it to you... SS
If I were to guess how much installed and tuned would be I'd say....... around 2200?.... but that could actually be more or less than what it'd actually come to.
Scott, I am seeing a few people posting full boost on a 20g by 4000rpm. In your experiences when would an 18g and also a 20g hit full boost on a 2.0L? Also does anybody wanna offer me a ride yet?:si:
also will probably need injectors if u dont run meth... add about $500 for meth... + labor if u dont wanna do it yourself
I suppose you could consider deadbolt's 16G as well, it pulled quite nicely compared to Delette's car. If budget is an issue, look to a methed 16G. If you want to throw down a bit more, check out the 18G. Deadbolt is definately the way to go.
my Forced Performance 18g hits full boost around 3500-3600rpm. That's with 1 High Flow Cat & TMIC. I think 20g is too laggy for everyday driving. BTW, i paid around $880 for my 18g. Deadbolt is a good/reputable company, so is Forced Performance without HIGH price tag. try to do little more research for upgrade turbo. 18g w/ alky is the best combo for 2.0L (if you don't mind risk of using alky/meth injection)
Hey Aspen...it doesnt matter, stop looking....your not allowed to get a new turbo right now. You have to wait until after I get one...:fawk: P.S......I am selling my car to get a 27' UHAUL with a 20g and meth....:rofl:...that will be the ultimate SWEEEEEETNESS...dont worry, I'll let you drive it...since you have experience driving those beasts.
As I understand it the exhaust housings(??) are in short supply. Whatever it is has kept me from recently ordering a green. :wtc: Probably better anyways until I get a ride in Brian's GT-30'd beast.
Go here and get his setup: http://www.xxxtremecompacts.com/phpbb/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=5511#5511 td05 20g on a stock 2.0 block with injectors and meth. full boost -21psi - by 3700rpm. That guys car is setup correctly for the 20g. I would prefer something other than a utec though... The most important part for boost is the GM boost solenoid. Read up (search) on that for better turbo response.
The "standard" thing to do on the WRX's was always VF34 and a FMIC. With JDM pinks and a SAFE boost curve they make just over 300 whp and 300 wlb-ft. The VF34's and JDM pinks are cheap and easy to find, and any FMIC works. For a little less lag and a little less top end go with the TXS TMIC... SS
It is oil and water cooled. It CAME with the new SS line, BUT Topspeed FORGOT to install the SS line that it came with. So my 18g has stock line. I keep forgetting to ask Trey about that. Is there any negative effect by using stock line??
WOW THIS is alot of good info i'm glad we have such great ppl to ask stuff like this i think i wanna go with a 18 g on meth.. thats sounds hot and am wondering how many whp will it make? stock, with 18g on meth.. around 320whp?
I believe with 18g and methanol, you can get around 340 whp. I made 308 whp with my 18g setup and I'm not planning on going methanol but I think Andy might so we'll see haha.
I have the 16g with meth on my evo, im about to put the 20g on (its still a 2.0) and if it will help you can ride with me, ill let you drive it if you want. And on the first page, someone said the 18g+ meth only went 11.9? was that on an sti or wrx.
11.9 with 18g and meth was on a wrx... I think having a 16g on the evo and a wrx is a biggg difference. Even though they are same turbos, the evo will spool alot quicker due to do less piping and one of the concerns with wrx's with big turbo is the spool... I jealous of what Evo's can do with little modifications but I still like my subie
18G + Meth + FMIC should be near 350 whp on a wrx... Super 16G + TMIC + Meth was 340 wlb-ft 337 whp on a wrx... SS
Evo's 16g is completely different animal. kinda don't want to go in detail, BUT EVO's turbo & engine design are far more efficient than Subaru's. Therefore, EVO can make more than 300-320whp with its stock 16g (which is also bigger and more advanced) and that's without meth injection.