4sevens Journal

Discussion in 'Member Journals & Project Build Stories' started by 4sevens, Jun 3, 2008.

  1. 4sevens

    4sevens Member

    Hey everyone... I thought I'd put down some thoughts while they are fresh in
    my experience.

    Just about one year ago, I picked up an 07 STI Limited. What a blast.
    It was my first car that is over 200hp. The car is built like a tank.
    Driving it daily knowing that it's based off a rally car with AWD and an excellent
    crash rating simply inspires confidence in the driver. (hey thats me)
    And all this with the boxer rumble to top it off.
    (btw My last car was an 01 4d accord.) (oh and the limited is going to be up forsale
    soon :p)

    Since then I've picked up (and sold) an Ariel Atom 2 which was a whole other
    experience in itself. Just looking at it makes my heart race without climbing in.
    It was gobs of fun in the HP sector but seriously offset by the lack of
    practicality and the death factor (yes you climb in but you may not climb out).
    It was purely a summer, dry day car. Not something you'd commute with unless
    you're insane. I have a chipped tooth to prove it. Everytime I take it
    for a spin, it's the same experience - wind in the hair, tears in the eyes,
    cuts on the face from bugs (no kidding). Plus the exact ambient temperature
    is instantly sensed as you drive through pockets of cool (near streams and
    creeks) and waves of heat on the freeway since I'm inches able the asphalt.
    Also, various car smells - coolant, oil, burning oil, brakes. I not only smell
    my own but all the cars around me at red lights as well as on the freeway.
    Sometimes I suddenly smell coolant at a red light, I look around and
    immediately identify an adjacent car. But before I can tell them the light
    turns green and I'm gone. Oh and also everywhere I drive I get honks,
    wild yells from rolled down windows, reving from superbikes who pull up next
    to me. Everytime I pull into a gas station, theres a crowd and I have to
    play the 20 questions game. It's fun at first but gets old fast. Then
    theres the supercharger whine. Since I fixed up the muffler that xsploded
    (I hear stock one sometimes blows up 400miles from factory) I could
    hear the whine all the way up to 6800. My adrenal glands kick in every time
    I launch and the dosage is proportional to the supercharger whine.
    The whine simply matches the quiet screaming inside my head. (I can't open
    my mouth or I instantly drool and it immediately begins to dry up)
    Anyway, enough of the atom. Heres the kicker....

    Recently I picked up a 03 miata with a 6spd. It's been exactly one week I
    have to say I have never had so much fun with so little HP. The little guy
    simply loves to rev. I rev and rev, shift a bunch of times and I look down
    and it's only 60mph and I'm still legal! I love it. The turns and curves are
    a blast even I'm crawling compared to what I'd be doing in the atom and sti.
    The suspension is horrible compared to the sti and atom. I'm used to the
    incredibly stiff suspension in the sti and atom and all the bouncing on the
    freeway, but I'm getting use to the progressive springs and am now able to
    push it a little bit on turns. I drove like a maniac this week and got 24.8mpg.

    Ok, so now what... last paragraph. I picked up the miata for one reason -
    it's a very light, driveable car. I am going to convert it to be an all electric
    car with a drivetrain that is total overkill with a lightweight battery for
    performance as well as a short 50 mile range for daily commute. I can always
    add in more packs for long trips. The goal is to keep the weight the same
    as stock (2300lb) as well as the 50/50 weight balance. A 200kw inverter
    matched with a good motor will put out an equivalent peak of 270hp and
    313 torque. It should outperform a gas car with same hp and weight
    because 100% of the torque is available from stop all the way to 6000rpm. :D

    I picked the 99+ miata due to slightly better drag co-efficient. Daily driving
    without a heavy foot should easily exceed and equivalent 150mpg. Yet
    then I'm ready to go, I should be able to take 99% of the cars on the street
    provided I modulate the throttle so that I don't burn off the rear tires. :D

    Anyway, thats all for now... stay tuned :bigthumb:
     
    Last edited: Jun 4, 2008
  2. BelvnAWD

    BelvnAWD I'm Vin, Bell-Vin...

    Package that in an affordable OTS kit (say $6K or less) and you may have your next company there...
     
  3. 4sevens

    4sevens Member

    I would never do that due to liability issues. The battery itself is a 700VDC
    system. Considering that 36VDC can kill someone, if I sold a kit like that I might
    as well go ahead and bury myself. :p

    Pricewise, here is the breakdown so far... (keep in mind I'm picking premium parts)
    13k 200kw power inverter
    8k-10k 50-70kw ac 3 phase motor
    10-15k 700v battery pack (li-poly)
    3k 12v dc-dc power supply
    5k charger system

    Yeah it's pricey. I've picked a motor that maxes at 8k rpm so it should
    jack right into the 6spd tranny. The torsen LSD should be really helpful.
    I may have to upgrade to rx7 drivetrain if I blow this one. :p
     
  4. blindfold

    blindfold Active Member

    so you are about to spend 40-45k on a miata? baller
     
  5. moophus

    moophus New Member

    lets see.
    Turbo and Tune that bad boy proper easily to 275hp for $10k
    that leaves ~$35k for premium gas
    let's say gas is $4.50 for inflation.
    that's 7,777 gallons.
    @ 20mpg that's 155k miles.

    or

    go electric and sneak quietly around town........until you squeal your tires :)
     
  6. gt9729b

    gt9729b Member

    Auto-x it!
     
  7. moophus

    moophus New Member

    autox

    there'd be some serious downtime unless you have someway to swap out 400lb battery packs btwn sessions.

    You might need to bring a generator to the pit......haha.

    "excuse me, can I get a jump?"
     
  8. 4sevens

    4sevens Member

    They'll be about 250 pounds. Yeah, they'll be hot swappable packs :)
     
  9. Batlground

    Batlground Active Member

    Awesome project if you need any fabrication help let us know
     
  10. 4sevens

    4sevens Member

    I'll definitely look you guys up. I've already got a list - motor to tranny mounting plate. Mounts for inverter and various other parts. I'll have to wait until
    I get the actual parts though. Do you guys have a 99+ miata chasis without
    a drivetrain lying around?
    Also can you source some spline shafts? :p
     
  11. Batlground

    Batlground Active Member

    What spline shafts, I can probably point you in the right direction. Also have you seen www.emachineshop.com
     
  12. 4sevens

    4sevens Member

  13. BelvnAWD

    BelvnAWD I'm Vin, Bell-Vin...

    I assume you have heard of Mazmart: http://www.mazmart.com/ They seem to give their regular customers the best deals, so you may not find great prices right off the bat, but they are local and have a pretty good inventory!

    Their Addy: 4917 New Peachtree Rd
    Atlanta, GA 30341

    They mainly buy and sell used Miata parts...
     
  14. Matt

    Matt Think before you post Staff Member Supporting Member

    they used to be a HUGE RX-7 place. Now they are just Mazda in general with more Miata parts than I know how to shake a stick at. :rofl:
     
  15. 4sevens

    4sevens Member

    Yeah they are just down the street. I'll give them a buzz.
    I just need to "rent" an empty NB chassis for a few months :p
     

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