Am I about to get scammed?

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Am I getting scammed?

  1. Yes

    21 vote(s)
    77.8%
  2. No

    0 vote(s)
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  3. You are going to die. Run away while you can!

    6 vote(s)
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  1. FTZ

    FTZ ^.^

    So here's the deal. I recently bought new furniture, a new Sofa and Love seat and a new coffee table. I am now trying to sell my old Sofa/Sectional on Craigslist.

    I posted up my For Sale and within about an hour, I had several replies. I replied to each of them, but never got another response back.

    The next morning, I check my email, and I have another hit on my Items. The person was asking if the item was still available, to which I replied Yes. About 20 minutes later, they message me again, asking if I would reduce the price, to which I said Yes, I am willing to negotiate.

    About an hour later, I get a message stating that the person is very interested, that they are sending me a Certified Check for the amount, once I receive the check, I am to email the person back so they can arrange Movers to come get the item. They stated that they were satisfied by the pictures and my description, to which I did not include any condition information.

    Right off the bat, at this point, I am thinking something is not right. Would I buy something like a sofa without looking at it? I wouldn't but there are people out there who might.

    I am also concerned about Movers showing up at my door, and will make sure that I have some sort of protection handy, though I doubt it would come to that.

    Anyways, I just got home from work, and check my email for the first time today, and I have a message from the buyer that their secretary had a check made out, but that the check was for an additional $3000, and that once I cash the check I am asked to Western Union the money to the Movers.

    It just keeps getting more fishy by the minute. I replied back that I had no problem Western Unioning the extra money back, just playing along with the scam for now.

    If I get a check, I will take it to the bank. I am not sure how long a Certified Check takes to clear in the bank, but I will not be contacting the buyer back until it does. No movers are coming for anything until the money is literally in my hands. If it takes a month for the check to cash, I guess if it is legit, the buyer is going to have to wait a month before they can come pick up.

    PS: I am supposed to keep an additional $100 for the inconvenience. Also, the emails back and forth are not in the best of English, another possible indicator of a scam.

    Not part of the poll, but if this is a scam of some sort, will me trying to cash the check be a problem? Will the scammer somehow have access to my account number if I try to deposit the check into my account?
     
    Last edited: Jun 15, 2009
  2. Matt

    Matt Think before you post Staff Member Supporting Member

    Scam!!

    It's a fake check. You won't get ANY of the money, and they will in turn have your furniture.
     
    Last edited: Jun 15, 2009
  3. wrxin8or

    wrxin8or Mullitt Staff Member

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  4. Berzerklo

    Berzerklo Active Member

    It sounds like a scam... but I have no idea how they are going to scam you by sending you a certified check.

    No sir, I don't like it.
     
  5. FACE

    FACE Active Member

    At first I stopped reading at the check sending part...voted that you should run...and then finished reading. I'm not sure how it would work but I would say it's some kind of money washing skem. I had the exact same situation happen when I was trying to sell a 40$ cd changer. Why the fxck would someone send me $3000 to return $2860 and then send someone to pick it up???

    Heres what you could do...

    1. Open another checking account at a different bank with $25.00

    2. Wait for check and if it comes deposit into said account and wait to clear.

    3. If check clears close account and buy me a roof vent ;)
     
  6. b reel

    b reel Active Member

    Contact your post office, police and your bank. What's worse is the bank will hold you responsible for the check amount if you did go through with this. And with contacting the authorities, there might be break in the case and lead to arrests.
     
  7. Kokopelli

    Kokopelli Active Member

    Scam. Same thing happened to us selling some funriture on Craigslist.

    Its not a real certified check. The good news is they probably won't pick up the furniture so you won't loose that too. They are just looking for the wire transfer.
     
  8. b reel

    b reel Active Member

    and it's a scam, cash the check, send the money, check bounces, you get stuck paying the bank back 3K and no furniture.
     
  9. b reel

    b reel Active Member

    Take the furniture to Goodwill, get a voucher for a tax deduction and be done with it.
     
  10. Weapon

    Weapon 90lbs of dynamite Supporting Member

    yea..its a scam..same thing happened to me when i was selling my sofa and recliners a few months ago
     
  11. Alex

    Alex Community Founder Staff Member

    Hammertime!
     
  12. FACE

    FACE Active Member

    Post whore^ :keke:
     
  13. Alex

    Alex Community Founder Staff Member

    Just testing out a new theme :)
     
  14. SubiNoobi

    SubiNoobi Supporting Member

    Its is possible that the check will clear, then weeks later it will bounce, then YOU will be the one the bank come after - for some reason checks can work that way.

    100% SCAM, tell them cash or walk
     
  15. ScoobyMike

    ScoobyMike OG Mod

    scam dude......run!!!
     
  16. Mad Mallard

    Mad Mallard the mad mallard

    fixed. ;p
     
  17. baddriver

    baddriver Active Member

    It's so easy to fake a "cerified" cheque that I wouldn't take one,
    unless I could validate the buyers home, place of work,
    blood-type, etc. Otherwise I'd look into a reputable escrow
    service or meet the buyer at their bank if it's a local
    transaction.
     
  18. Brian

    Brian Active Member

    FYI, the last 4 out of 5 times I've tried to buy or sell on craiglist it has been a SCAM. Everyone else saying this is a scam is correct. If you can get a real phone number you're doing better than most. And don't expect anything to happen when you go to the cops. :(

    However! Since they sent you a check thru the mail the post office is better at kicking ass and taking names on scammers.
     
  19. dontcallitarex

    dontcallitarex Active Member

    Did they keep referring to your couch as ITEM?
     
  20. FACE

    FACE Active Member

    ^^^ in my case they did keep reffering to the "ITEM"
     
  21. dontcallitarex

    dontcallitarex Active Member

    I got an email like this, also on some furniture. Its almost certainly a scam.
     
  22. flat4ever666

    flat4ever666 Member

    the exact same this happened to me with when selling my truck, i mean word for word. tell him to call you and he wont ever contact you again. thats what i did.
     
  23. FTZ

    FTZ ^.^

    No, they did not use the word Item. They referred to the item as both a Sofa and a Sectional.

    I received an email this morning again saying that the check should arrive today via UPS something. The buyer emailed me the Movers information and asked that I Western Union the extra money back.

    I replied that I would email them once I received the check, but that I would not be contacting the movers until the check cleared in my bank account. I also told them that if this is unacceptable to them, I could just destroy the check, and they could Western Union my money to the Movers to hand me cash when they come to pick up the sofa.

    If they reply back upset about the situation, I will tell them it is their fault for making the entire deal seem shady and be done with it.

    I expect it to be a scam, kinda thought so from the beginning, so at least I am not going to get screwed. If they are a legit buyer, they should understand how shady everything seems and accept the delay to pick up.
     
  24. I would have to agree here, take the tax deduction and no issues with scam.

    Either way, I would not go threw with this transaction.
     
  25. Weapon

    Weapon 90lbs of dynamite Supporting Member

    It will clear the bank man. The problem is sometimes it takes months for the money order/check to come back as fake. Weeks down the road it will be returned and you will be held responsible. I am telling you don't do it. Think about it. Who the fuck accidently makes a money order out for thousands of dollars more than what you were selling for a few hundred? If you do it you will reimburse them $3K in real cash and be responsible for another $3K for the bad money order. Thats $6000 you will be out plus the possibility of having charges pressed against you from the bank for cashing a fake check.

    The money order will look legit and most of the time it is nearly impossible for it to be recognized as a fake. I have had people pay rent with fake money orders and 2 months later it come back as a fake.
     
    Last edited: Jun 16, 2009
  26. BelvnAWD

    BelvnAWD I'm Vin, Bell-Vin...

    I am with Kris on this one, don't do it, waaaay to much work and waaaay to much risk...
     
  27. Cool_____

    Cool_____ Banned

    If you get a check then notify authorities (FBI) and tell the entire story while handing over the check. You are out of nothing.
     
  28. Mad Mallard

    Mad Mallard the mad mallard

    From 'the man'

    http://clarkhoward.com/liveweb/shownotes/2008/10/27/14321/?_form=1

     
  29. DaveH

    DaveH Member

    Please don't even entertain this notion.

    You are looking right at a textbook scam. There is no 'if'.
     
  30. Cool_____

    Cool_____ Banned

    Drop the blunt and run!
     
  31. FACE

    FACE Active Member

    Run and take another hit of the blunt!
     
  32. FTZ

    FTZ ^.^

    Well, I got home today and had mail sitting at my door. It came via UPS Priority mail.

    I opened the package, and got the check. On the check, the bank is listed as City National Bank 2101 Webster St, Oakland, CA 94612. I decided to google the bank and call them before proceeding any further.

    I called the number listed on the website, and a nice guy named Anthony answered. I started to explain that I was trying to sell an item, to which he interrupted me and asked if the check was from Animation Mentor, to which I replied Yes, and he said it is fraud.

    I have the Sent from address on the UPS package, I have the information for Western Unioning the additional funds back. Is there anything I can do with this information to help get this person stopped?



    At least it cost this person a few dollars to send the package Priority Mail to make it look legit.

    Interestingly, the emails are from Angela Vera, The package was sent from Brad Edmonds, and I am supposed to Western Union the extra money back to Autumn Burns. If that alone isn't enough to raise some questions, then I don't know what is.
     
    Last edited: Jun 16, 2009
  33. Sparta

    Sparta Active Member

    Well glad you didn't fall into it. The bank would have cleared and you would have made your transaction thinking everything was fine and dandy then a couple of weeks later you would have gotten a call from the banks fraud investigator who would have informed you that you owe X amount of dollars back to the bank because of stolen monies. Ask me how it feels to have that X=$-25,000. It ain't fun.
     
  34. FACE

    FACE Active Member

    How does it feel Sparta?
     
  35. Sparta

    Sparta Active Member

    A mixture of fear, depression, anxiety, and the means to kill somebody all at once.
     
  36. Mad Mallard

    Mad Mallard the mad mallard

    they use women's names to make the scam more appealing in general.

    The addresses and names are throwaway, i'm sure. I'd call the local municipality detective and see if they want it.
     
  37. Cool_____

    Cool_____ Banned

    I can't believe you even went as far as you did.
     
  38. Sparta

    Sparta Active Member

    X2, what if the bank teller didn't recognize the name as being a fake check? What would you have done?
     
  39. FTZ

    FTZ ^.^

    Are you asking me?

    I kind of knew right off the bat that things seemed fishy, so I would not have gone through with it. At the most, I would have taken the check to my bank, explained and asked them what they thought.

    Now, if the buyer would have sent me a check for the correct amount, things might have been quite different. Once I got the email saying that the secretary messed up and made the check out for $3000 more than it was supposed to be, I knew it was a scam, but wanted to get other peoples opinions.

    If the check was for the correct amount, I may have cashed the check and contacted the buyer back to arrange for the movers. Who knows what would happen from there.
     
  40. FACE

    FACE Active Member

    Glad it didnt happen that way either...you may have thought nothing of it and still got screwed
     
  41. gotsol

    gotsol Active Member

    I'd like to hear more details about this $25,000 situation
     

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