Any Computer nerds on here?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Trancetto, Dec 26, 2011.

  1. Trancetto

    Trancetto Active Member

    I know there are few of you guys who build computers, update etc....

    I have a PC that I kept in my closet for the longest, its basically brand new, used for about 24 hours, problem is, its bit out dated. lol

    My questions are:

    1. Is this computer worth upgrading?
    2. What would be the maximum I could get out of it.
    2. If it its, what is the best route?
    3. What would be the best source to order my parts from?

    Goals for this PC?



    To run modern graphic games like Diablo 3 in near future.


    Now to the computer:

    Dell Inspiron 530

    Specs:

    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU e4500 @ 2.20 GHZ 2.20 GHZ
    Memory (RAM): 2.00 GB (lol, this would need some help I know that, i think)
    System type: 32 bit (From what I read, the 32 bit will keep the ram at 4gb max?)
     
  2. integroid

    integroid Supporting Member

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    ram is cheap.
    4 gig is the max on 32 bit is.
    what kind of video card?
    what are the min. Specs to run Diablo 3?
    it will most likely run it but probably not very well without some upgrades. You can get a new pc with 64bit os for under $400.
     
  3. Trancetto

    Trancetto Active Member

    Thats what I was thinking. Just getting a 64bit OS and going from there.

    Diablo 3 is similar to WoW.

    Here are minimum specs for WoW:

    Intel Pentium 4 1.3 GHz or AMD Athlon XP 1500+
    - 1 GB or more of RAM
    - NVIDIA® GeForce® FX or ATI Radeon™ 9500 video card or better
    - 25.0 GB available HD space


    So if i was to get the ram to 4gb, and a better graphic card, i should be fine?


    Here is a FULL SPEC on the PC, it seems like its capable of 64bit?


    http://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/dell-inspiron-530/4507-3118_7-32953389.html?tag=mncol;subnav




    General
    Type Personal computer
    Product Form Factor Mini tower
    Width 6.7 in
    Depth 17.1 in
    Height 14.3 in
    Weight 28.0 lbs
    Color Silver


    Processor
    Type Intel Core Duo E2160 / 2.2 GHz
    Multi-Core Technology Dual-Core
    64-bit Computing Yes
    Installed Qty 1.0
    Max Supported Qty 1.0
    Upgradability Upgradable


    Mainboard
    Chipset type Intel G33 Express
    Data bus speed 800.0 MHz


    Cache Memory
    Type L2 cache
    Installed Size 1.0 MB
    Cache Per Processor 1 MB


    Environmental Parameters
    Min operating temperature 50.0 °F
    Max operating temperature 95.0 °F
    Operating humidity range 20 - 80%


    RAM
    Installed Size 2.0 GB / 4.0 GB (max)
    Technology DDR2 SDRAM
    Memory Speed 667.0 MHz
    Memory Specification Compliance PC2-5300
    Form Factor DIMM 240-pin
    Features Dual channel memory architecture
    Configuration Features 2 x 1 GB


    Storage Controller
    Type 1.0 x Serial ATA - Integrated
    Controller Interface Type Serial ATA-300
    Channel Qty 4.0
    RAID Level RAID 1


    Storage
    Floppy Drive None
    Hard Drive 1.0 x Standard - S-ATA
    Hard Drive (2nd) None


    Optical Storage
    Type DVD+/-RW - Serial ATA
    Read Speed 16x
    Write Speed 16x
    Rewrite Speed 16x


    Optical Storage (2nd)
    Type None


    Storage Removable
    Type None


    Monitor
    Monitor Type none.


    Graphics Controller
    Type PCI Express x16 - Plug-in card
    Graphics Processor / Vendor ATI Radeon HD3650
    Video Memory 256.0 MB
    Digital Video Standard Digital Visual Interface (DVI)
    Max Monitors Supported 2.0


    Audio Output
    Type Sound card - Integrated
    Sound Output Mode 7.1 channel surround
    Compliant Standards High Definition Audio
    Speaker(s) None





    Networking
    Networking Network adapter - Integrated
    Data Link Protocol Ethernet,
    Fast Ethernet
    Printer
    Type None
    Expansion / Connectivity
    Expansion Bays 2.0 (total) / 1.0 (free) x Front accessible - 5.25" x 1/2H,
    2.0 (total) / 1.0 (free) x Internal - 3.5" x 1/3H,
    1.0 (total) / 0.0 (free) x Front accessible - 3.5" x 1/3H
    Expansion Slot(s) 1.0 (total) / 2.0 (free) x PCI - DIMM 240-pin,
    1.0 (total) / 0.0 (free) x Memory - LGA775 Socket,
    4.0 (total) / 1.0 (free) x Processor,
    2.0 (total) / 2.0 (free) x PCI Express x16,
    1.0 (total) / 0.0 (free) x PCI Express x1
    Interfaces 1.0 x Display / video - Ethernet 10Base-T/100Base-TX - Mini-phone stereo 3.5 mm ( 1 in front ),
    1.0 x Display / video - DVI-Analog/Digital - RJ-45 ( 4 in front ),
    1.0 x Audio - S-video output - Mini-phone stereo 3.5 mm ( 1 in front ),
    1.0 x Audio - Line-out (center/subwoofer) - Mini-phone stereo 3.5 mm,
    1.0 x Network - Line-out/headphones - Mini-phone stereo 3.5 mm,
    1.0 x Audio - Line-out (side surround) - Mini-phone stereo 3.5 mm,
    2.0 x Audio - Line-out (rear) - Mini-phone 3.5 mm,
    1.0 x Hi-Speed USB - Line-in - 4 pin USB Type A,
    1.0 x Microphone - Line-out - 29 pin combined DVI,
    8.0 x Audio - Input - Mini-phone stereo 3.5 mm,
    2.0 x Audio
    Power
    Device Type Power supply
    Power AC 120/230 V ( 50/60 Hz )
    Power Provided 300.0 Watt
    Operating System / Software
    OS Provided Vista Home Premium
    Microsoft Office Preloaded Includes a pre-loaded image of select Microsoft Office 2010 suites. Purchase an Office 2010 Product Key Card or disc to activate preloaded software on this PC.
    Software Microsoft Works 9.0,
    Drivers & Utilities,
    McAfee SecurityCenter (Trial)
     
    Last edited: Dec 26, 2011
  4. nicad

    nicad Yes I am a troll

    I'd help, but you used the term 'computer nerds'
     
  5. Trancetto

    Trancetto Active Member

    In a good way.I wish that I was a computer nerd, i wouldnt be here asking for help. lol
     
  6. integroid

    integroid Supporting Member

    No need to go with 64 bit OS. It would be pointless on this machine and it wouldnt make a difference with Diablo 3.

    You should be fine by maxing out the ram (you need two 2gig cards) and getting a new video card.
     
    Last edited: Dec 27, 2011
  7. Trancetto

    Trancetto Active Member

    Which video card would you suggest?

    And where would be the best place to purchase said items?
     
  8. Trancetto

    Trancetto Active Member

  9. superdoughboy4

    superdoughboy4 Active Member

    A decent video card these days would be like a GTX460.
    I run a GTX560, which is a mid-high end card, runs for about $190-200 and is a generation after the 460.
    eVGA GTX550Ti: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130625
    eVGA is a very reputable brand for motherboards and graphics cards. They've even been dabbling in the power supply market recently.

    I would suggest an older card but they don't sell them anymore.
    Also please don't tell me you bought the RAM from Dell.

    If you were to get a better graphics card like that, you might want to bump up and get a better power supply too.
    You don't really want to go cheap on a power supply either. Rosewill is a decent brand however, and is pretty cheap for decent products.
    My Rosewill 550W has been going strong for more than 3 years now.
     
    Last edited: Dec 27, 2011
  10. CelticPride

    CelticPride Banned

    I would've suggested contacting Techlord. He got me a killer deal on a PC with 4 gigs, Windows 7 and a nice video card already in it for next to nothing.
     
  11. BKiller

    BKiller Active Member

    The good news is, you should have plenty of time if you are waiting on Diablo 3. Blizzard has been saying next quarter for 4 years!!!
     
  12. Trancetto

    Trancetto Active Member

    Not really waiting on Diablo 3 like that, but I'll get on it once its out. And you are right, its been 15 years since they been saying that lol. But I believe they are for real this time. Since they made WoW customers purchase 12 years of membership, in return you get diablo 3 for free in early 2012. And i did order those from dell, I read it would be best to order from the company that made the computer. Whats so bad about their product? I could always get refund and order from some place else.


    Thanks for the help.
     
    Last edited: Dec 27, 2011
  13. Trancetto

    Trancetto Active Member

    I just ordered: "EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB Graphics Card (1024 MB, GDDR5, PCI-E 2.0 16x, DVI-I x 2, Mini-HDMI,"


    Total 250 with over night shipping.




    Ill wait for these 2 items to come in, and ill see what else i need.
     
  14. Trancetto

    Trancetto Active Member

  15. Matt

    Matt Think before you post Staff Member Supporting Member

  16. 07Ltd#767

    07Ltd#767 The Neighborhood Drunk

    card looks good, should run fine assuming you have the correct power rail on your stock power supply.

    RAM is cheap...ordering from Dell is fine, but you could probably pay about half that from Newegg if you're looking to save a few bucks. I use Newegg for all my computer purchases, just feel the most comfortable with them, but I haven't heard anything negative about tiger direct, either.

    Check out toms hardware for reviews on current hardware. They do great comparisons showing the cost and performance differences across the line, as well as point out the best bang for the buck pieces you can get for a given price range
     
  17. 07Ltd#767

    07Ltd#767 The Neighborhood Drunk

    no such thing as overkill on the power supply as far as frying something, it'll just make your system run a bit warmer and cost a few extra bucks to power. IIRC, I'm running a 1300W PS, but I also run 6 internal hard drives and wanted the ability to run my next video card setup in SLI. New power supplies are pretty slick, they come with detachable cables so you only run the cables you need and don't have a bunch of stragglers hanging all over the place.

    edit - for clarification, everything in your computer runs on a specific voltage rail. Upping your power supply doesn't mean you're giving more power to you individual components, it just means you'll have increased rails so you can run multiple, multiple objects at the same time (fans, hard drives, cd-roms, etc) without having to worry about the power hungry pieces (video card) eating up all the available power.
     
    Last edited: Dec 27, 2011
  18. Alex

    Alex Community Founder Staff Member

  19. Trancetto

    Trancetto Active Member

  20. superdoughboy4

    superdoughboy4 Active Member

    If you want one of the best monitors, Dell makes a line of monitors called UltraSharp, which is one of the ones Alex posted.
    But the one you currently have should suffice for pretty much everything.

    If you really want a nice PSU, go with Corsair's HX line. The modular cables are nice and the product in general is great. For your PC, 500-600Watts is more than enough.
    Of course now-a-days, many power supply manufacturers are giving all of their high-end models the modular cable design so you can always pick and choose.
    Antec and Thermaltake are pretty reputable companies in the power supply market also.


    Yeah. Rosewill is the budget company you will want to go with. My 550W was 60$ and it's been running awesome for the past 3.5 years.
    Rosewill is also Newegg's brand, basically OEM products that are rebranded.
     
    Last edited: Dec 27, 2011
  21. nicad

    nicad Yes I am a troll

    don't forget that video card memory will eat into the 4gb limit - it can only address 4gb total, not just system memory
     
  22. Trancetto

    Trancetto Active Member


    UPDATE:

    Got my graphic card, and ofcourse the current power supplier wont even work so i ordered what Matt had posted earlier tonight. Ram should arrive tomorrow, and power supplier should come in tomorrow or friday.
     
  23. superdoughboy4

    superdoughboy4 Active Member

    Sweet. Take pictures. If you need help with any of that stuff, I may be available on Friday to help out.
     
  24. Trancetto

    Trancetto Active Member

    ill take pictures of everything once its here.


    Doing this for the first time is kinda difficult, but not rally. i took pictures of everything as i plugged each cable out and where it was. The trouble i ran into with the current supplier was: for one, plugs were different. And not enough plugs. the old graphic card ony required one plug in power, th current graphic card requires 2 plugin power cables. and the power supplier didnt offer that.


    ill take pics of the graphic card in a minute. and power supplier that went out.
     
  25. Trancetto

    Trancetto Active Member

    UPDATE WITH PICS, RAM CAME IN TODAY. And by the looks of it, the power box will come in tomorrow, or anywhere betweent omorrow and jan 5th. -.- so much for over night shipping on this part, lol.

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  26. Trancetto

    Trancetto Active Member

    All done. Just gotta wait for the power supply to get this thing runing.

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    Last edited: Dec 29, 2011
  27. superdoughboy4

    superdoughboy4 Active Member

    You know, you might as well get a whole new case. Lol. With the nice power supply, you can utilize the cable management system of both the case, if it has one, and the modular cable system of the PSU.
    Your parts will also run much better because it's not cramped to shit in that tiny micro ATX case.

    I'm not saying a new case is a must. It's just nice to have a good case.
     
  28. Trancetto

    Trancetto Active Member

    I was thinking that.

    As you can see I had to move my hard drive right above the graphic card due to rearranging the cable from mother board to hard drive.

    I shouldnt have heating problems, i dont think. lol
     
  29. Trancetto

    Trancetto Active Member

    Computer is completed.

    Thanks for all the input.


    Runing WoW on ultra settings perfectly. Its ready for D3
     
  30. longfury

    longfury Active Member

    Make sure you have the latest drivers installed from www.nvidia.com. Always keep your drivers updated.
     
  31. Trancetto

    Trancetto Active Member

    I installed them from a CD that came with the driver. o.o I gues im good. :) Its running smooth with no problems. Runs MW3, Assassin Creed with no problems. And hella graphics.
     
  32. superdoughboy4

    superdoughboy4 Active Member

    You're going to want to download drivers from nVidia's website.
    The latest drivers are what you want to run your PC with. Otherwise, it won't run as well as it should.
     
  33. longfury

    longfury Active Member

    I throw the CD's away when I install video cards at work. Get the updated drivers for even better performance.
     
  34. Trancetto

    Trancetto Active Member

    You guys are ineed correct. I went to the site, and i ran the info:

    "GeForce GTX 560 Ti
    Has been detected in your system.
    Your current driver is 266.44
    Latest Driver Version 285.62


    Currently installing new driver up to date.

    <3
     
    Last edited: Dec 31, 2011

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