I need to know if how I drive is hurting anything transmission/clutch wise. When I am coasting to a stop (not downshifting, just press the clutch and roll) I hold the clutch in the whole time but the car is in neutral. Its just a habit. Sitting at a red light, I am in gear with the clutch in the whole time (unless its a really long light). I have been told that doing this is bad for the pilot or throw out bearing can't remember which one. Is this true? Am I damaging something in any way by driving like this?
You would think that if you are one of those college boys you would know how a freaking engine and manual transmission work. Look at some pictures, if your half ass mechanically inclined it shouldn't take you more than a couple of days to figure it out.
I think it really doesn't matter. For me, it is just more comfortable to not have to have my leg depressed on the clutch for 2 minutes. As for the ill effects, yeah, there are some but will it make that large of a difference? Probably not. I am sure you do at least 5 other things per day with that transmission that shorten its life quicker (and no, "using it" does not count).
I know how "freaking engine and manual transmission" work. Its just that my roommates car does not have a pilot bearing or something along those lines and so his does not matter which made me curious. A simple yes or no answer to my question will suffice though. Don't want you to strain yourself typing. :fawk:
I would appreciate it if you would try to refrain from posting useless comments (aka trolling) in all of my threads. Its not cute and your are not funny.
Well he was asking about his car, now he wants to throw in his roommates car for comparison. If the car doesn't have a pilot bearing then it obviously won't wear out but I bet it has a bushing. If the motor is turning, well then the bearing is being spun, if the clutch is pushed in then the TO bearing isn't turning, or isn't turning much depending on the drag from the pilot bearing turning the shaft while in neutral. It's rather simple if you have the ability of reason and cognitive thought.
So, in gear with clutch pushed in the TO bearing is not spinning much therefore not being worn out correct? I'm just making sure I understand what you are saying.
Unless you got a bearing that wasn't lubed at the factory, it's rather pointless to be concerned about this. Some people go about this on the cheap and don't replace the TO, pilot bearing or even the pressure plate when doing a clutch replacement. If you didn't put the clutch in yourself or bought the car new, then replace all of those parts. Like Alex said, there are other things to be concerned about.
You didn't mention pilot bearing, you have to take in consideration that bearing keeps the shaft in alignment with the rest of your transmission and gears. If there is play from a worn bearing it's putting a load on those gears, carrier bearings and seals and will lead to a failure. Most overlooked part and one of the leading contributors to a failed trans
I VERY rarely beat on my transmission. Maybe 2-3 hard 2nd-3rd shifts at about 5k since I have owned the car. I'm not worried. Thanks for the info.
LOL..this is funny. Wouldnt it shorten the lifespan of the fingers on the PP by doing what he is saying? I had always thought that was the reasoning for people to advise to not keep the clutch pressed in all the time. Also more wear on the TO bearing.
this is what I was thinking although I catch myself at a light all the time with the clutch pressed in while it is in neutral.
I see nothing blatantly wrong here. Others probably disagree. However, it is working the pilot bearing and throwout bearing 'more' than how I would drive. The throwout bearing on the pull type clutches are moving all the time so it really doesnt matter. The pilot bearing under your conditions is not under any sort of undue loading so it doesnt really matter either. I typically go to neutral and cover the pedal while braking if I know I'm stopping. If not stopping, I rev match downshift. Again, there is nothing wrong with what you are doing.
I downshift and take it out of gear to coast to a stop... But I too keep the clutch in and car in gear while at the light... Its never caused an issue with any of my cars that have all been manuals, but then again I don't usually keep cars long enough to see any ill effects. Who knows though? maybe the tranny's all take a shit for people who have the car after me.
I've never owned an automatic car (truck yes) and have for the most part clutched in at light with all my cars. Never had a problem with Fords, Fiats, Toyota's and Chevy's. I got 75k out of the Subaru clutch which I believe is up to par with Subaru's. The Subaru stock clutches whether they are push or pull seem fairly decent for wear in DD and clutch in at light, or stop.