endlink help

So just bought some whiteline sways. Looking to buy endlinks asap. Should I purchase whiteline as well??? Seen a few people running kartboy and ralitek. Ralitek are by far the cheapest, but price isn't really the issue. I just want what will work best with the bars. Oh and by the way I have the 27 bars. Thanks guys in advance

 

i like the whiteline rear endlinks. i have heard/read that front endlinks aren't really necessary

 

^^^ No fronts huh?? Hmm even with the big bar?

 

I noticed a difference with the front links. Currently I am using the kartboys and they work quite well.

 

run stock till they break, if they ever do. There's absolutely zero performance to be gained from endlinks. I'm running 29 / 27 on stock links and have no problems.

 

Depending on the car endlinks can make an improvement. I know on my car the endlinks are plastic with rubber bushings. Aftermarket endlinks are metal with poly bushing. The aftermarket endlinks give better response and feel.

 

Drew is right...The factory end links will work until they break but I have noticed a difference on the 3 Subarus I have owned that I changed out the end links on. I have always used Perrin's because they are spherical bearings and no way for a urethane bushing to go bad like the Kartboys/Whitelines

 

holy crap!

 

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show me proof other than your sensitized butt dyno...the only thing i've seen regarding stock endlinks is the rears have been known to flip on the sti's. never heard of anyone personally, though

 

Humm....come on Drew, I know you are not a retarded monkey. I went from a plastic end link on my cars to an aluminum end link with a spherical bearing. You really dont think that will make a little bit of a difference? Let me ask you, have you changed out your end links to even notice a diffference or ever compared the two personally? I have on three different Subarus....none of them were STi's so i dont know if the end links are different on STi's. Like i siad...if your end links are fine and you dont feel like spending the money, I wouldnt change them till they broke...you can also still drive your car with a broken end link. I know this because i have broken them on two of my previous cars.

Drew, maybe you need to grow some balls and drive your car a little harder LOL...I kidddd.

 

i may be wrong, but show me proof, other than the butt dyno...what Alex said is the reason I would switch, not because there's a 'performance' gain

my guess would be you could jump in two identical cars setup exactly the same with exception to the endlinks and you wouldn't notice a difference

 

Remember, STi's have different links than the rest of us.

 

Well, that would make sense then. I have never owned a STi. I did notice a difference on my Forester, WRX, and Legacy with the craptastic plastic end links that broke when I upgraded the sway bars.

 

well i have a set of stock sti endlinks of a '10 i'll sell you...$50

 

Sti links don't work on an rs. It's not a butt dyno it's common sense. Metal is stiffer than plastic and urethane is stiffer than rubber. Stiffer = better feel in the car world. better feel equals better performance. I have ran stock and aftermarket endlinks on my car and there is a difference. Don't knock it till you've tried it...

 

I agree with Drew. On a Sti, there is no need to swap endlinks until they break.
Now other cars, with plastic endlinks, I would swap the hell out of them.
Get something with spherical bearings unless you're afraid of nvh.

 

IIRC Jason is/was running stock endlinks on his mountain setup wrx that handles on rails with 30/30 cobb sway bars (hollow, tho they may be)

 

I have only had one set of spherical links (whiteline) and they rattled like rocks in a can after only a few months. There may be better ones on the market that last longer, but I will never use spherical links on a DD car again. On a race only car, no doubt spherical links are the way to go.

I other words, yes I am afraid of NVH.

 

come on people, the bushing has nothing to do with the amount force transferred (where length, radius, material, and geometry of the bar DO). this increase in perceived feel is your brain telling you it's $100 well spent. I would argue that a stiffer bushing will take a shorter amount of time to compress before that lateral force is communicated through the bar, but I think it would be negligible. and if you're counting on that stiffer bushing to make that much of a difference, just invest in a better spring/strut combination, since sway bars a largely a band aid fix for undersprung cars to not sacrifice ride quality.

see: steering rack bushings

 

:eek3:

 

I agree with this post %100. However when you have full coilovers and huge bars small changes like endlinks are a lot more noticeable.

 

So the conclusion is to keep the stock endlinks until they break because the difference is not noticable?

 

On an STi, yes....if you have plastic end links swap them out ASAP