insurance advice

Discussion in 'General Community' started by miloman, Mar 14, 2006.

  1. miloman

    miloman Retired Admin

    The car is at Gwinnett Place Body Shop. Thanks to scott (NXTLVL) for looking over this. However, after they started taking the car apart, it looks like theres a strong chance that the car may be totalled. Insurance has not said anything to me yet but I figured I'd post this up here and get advice from you guys. I know some of you work in the insurance industry. Some of you have had experience dealing with insurance companies yourselves in case of similar situations.

    If indeed it is totalled, what should I expect? What is fair market value? Is it the KBB suggested retail value? What if they offer less than KBB suggested retail value? Anything else I should be aware of?

    slowwrx, siegelracing, NXTLVL, 7wolf and others have given me some advice (Thanks a lot guys). But if anyone else has any information I could use, please post up. Thanks in advance.
     
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  2. Brian

    Brian Active Member

    Can you get your mods off the car?
     
  3. jayj713

    jayj713 Member

  4. miloman

    miloman Retired Admin

    the adjuster said i can as long as i replace them with stock parts
     
  5. moose

    moose Infina Mooooooose!

    From what I gather, insurance should pony up enough $ for you to replace the car with essentially the same vehicle. When I had a bike stolen years ago, I was adviced by some friends in the insurance business to bring printouts/copies of ads for similar vehicles (from dealers etc), KBB and Edmunds values etc etc... and to expect that they'd lowball me at first. If they offer you $10K and you know that you'd have to pay $14K to get another 03 wrx sedan in similar condition with similar mileage, they need to do better.

    Obviously mods won't normally be covered.
     
  6. WRX-WRC

    WRX-WRC Active Member

    make sure you get all of your parts off of your car, do not let them touch the car until you have a check in your hand or a recorded verbal agreement. the retail on your car it 20k i wouldnt accept anyhting but that unless its withing like 500 bucks. i doubt they will give you what you want the first offer, dont accept it, keep fighting. :)


    Alex
     
  7. longfury

    longfury Active Member

    Most insurance companies will give you cost to replace. That means retail price plus tax. Progressive gave me about 20K - my deductable for my WRX but it had nearly 60K miles on it and it was a 2004.
     
  8. Goose013

    Goose013 Member

    you only get replacement value if you have replacement insurance. what you get is ACV or actual cash value which is not found in any guide. It is done by various companies that supposedly find similar cars in your area that have been sold recently and will therefore reflect those sale prices. Sometimes this is good but most of the time it is bad. If you are using your collision coverage the aftermarket parts will not be covered or taken into consideration unless you declared them on your policy. You should however be able to get all your parts as long as you replace them with the stock parts. I would do this asap if your car is at the tow yard as you might get jacked. Your basic defense against the lowball price will be to find your own price matches and use them vs. your insurance co. if that is what you want to do. If you can't agree then you will have to go to arbitration and pay for your own independant appraiser. They should give you a copy of the report they received if you ask for one. Hope this helps.

    there's basically little you can do because it is not just an offer, its supposedly the "Actual Value" of your car. The only neg room you may have is if you recently had a new transmission or new clutch or tires, that sort of thing. You will need receipts though.
     
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  9. MarkM2016GTI

    MarkM2016GTI Supporting Member

    Milo, I was just going to ask if your car was paid off and if you had gap insurance?. I am sure that it was paid off. I agree with what the other folks said in regards to making sure that you don't let them touch it until after you get a check in your hands. I have been with State Farm for almost 7 years now and they have been very helpful with everything. I also used to work for an agent at SF a while ago and usually they are very good at getting you the best valuation on your vehicle.


    Mark
     
  10. Goose013

    Goose013 Member

    by the way, in addition to that ecu, I just so happen to have a stock tbe lying around...lol :)
     
  11. miloman

    miloman Retired Admin

    i have the DP... and my catback is ruined anyways
     
  12. jt money

    jt money 350hp mmm mmm Good! Supporting Member

    my experence has been this. the insurance company will only total your car for 1 of 2 reasons. if it has more than half the cars worth in damage or if it has frame damage. my sister fliped a 02 vw bug and they didnt total the car. they fixed it. so first of all you need to find out what the blue book price is for your car. then estimate the damage. if its over 50% of the cars worth your in the cool. also be sure to get everything you want off or out of the car before they give you the check! once the check is in your hands the car is thiers. i once had to track my car down at an auto auction to get an exhuast off of it. i think i have a stock up and a td04 for you if you want. please keep us informed on the parts needed to get it back to stock. i think i know where some shocks and springs are also.
     
  13. 1ll-WRX

    1ll-WRX Active Member

    I have a stock TMIC....if ya want it.......
     
  14. longfury

    longfury Active Member

    I also have a few stock pieces still floating around if you need some.
     
  15. slpymnky

    slpymnky Member

  16. moose

    moose Infina Mooooooose!

    That sounds insane considering I paid $21.5 for my 05 brand new.
     
  17. Goose013

    Goose013 Member

    look, as a business practice most companies will total a car if it is damaged 65-70% of its total worth. the reason is there will probably be a supplement needed once repairs start which would then make the car more expensive to repair than what its worth. The things I've told you is what you can expect. Just don't go into it with a bad feeling to start with.


    oh by the way...if you give the Insurance co. permission to move your car out of storage, then that is when they will move it, to avoid storage fees. Not necessarily before you cash the check. Your car may already be salvaged by the time you cash the check.
     
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  18. gotsol

    gotsol Active Member

    hummm, I'm sure you will handle yourself professionally and will get the most $ for your car.
     
  19. WRX-WRC

    WRX-WRC Active Member

    the actual market value stuff is crap, you can get them to go higher, i did by about 1k dollars.
     
  20. Goose013

    Goose013 Member

    Its not crap, you just better be able to back up your estimate with LOCAL sales and very close to your mileage. I'm in the claims dept at The Hartford and see it everyday.
     
  21. WRX-WRC

    WRX-WRC Active Member

    it is crap, they tried to compare my cars to a 2.5 rs and a outback sport, they arent compareable.
     
  22. Goose013

    Goose013 Member

    well they were just trying to rip you off plain and simple, that's why you get a copy of the report. it should be several 03' WRX's no other type car.

    if you really want to have some fun, Drew could file a BI claim and you could split the $$. I'm sure he's a little sore somewhere... :naughty:
     
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  23. WRX-WRC

    WRX-WRC Active Member

    oh yeah man, insurance fraud FTW!!! sounds like a real good idea :rolleyes:
     
  24. Goose013

    Goose013 Member

  25. miloman

    miloman Retired Admin

    KBB said my car was worth $20950...

    these are the cars i have found so far:

    2003/40k miles/autotrader - $18995 (thanks ill)
    2003/28k miles/SOG - $20588
    2003/12k miles/ebay - buy it now: $25995
    2003/57k miles/ebay - $18795

    if they try to lowball me, i have found wrx's with almost twice as many miles as mine that are selling for over 16k-17k
     
  26. yerrow

    yerrow Active Member

    print those and keep them on file so you can whip'em out to the adjuster
     
  27. slpymnky

    slpymnky Member

    So is the car def. totalled?

    Are you staying in the Subaru family?
     
  28. My friend sold his 03 wrx for $15,500 with 37k miles. The guy who bought it totalled it a month later and got $20,000 back from insurance... :eek3:
     
  29. BrianGT

    BrianGT Banned

    wow, I am amazed at how they hold their value. I hope insurance gives you a good bit of money for the car. Also, if it is totalled, you might be able to get a cheap buy-back for the salvage parts.

    --
    Brian
     
  30. miloman

    miloman Retired Admin

    possibly but i have no place to store the car
     
  31. WRX-WRC

    WRX-WRC Active Member

    hey milo, ask what the buy back is, i may be intertested :D
     
  32. miloman

    miloman Retired Admin

    will do... the ej20 is probably fine :D
     

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