Well, it was either $400 ish for the ion springs (and a pita install) or the coilovers where I keep my stock spring/struts for backup. http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14676
looks good rod... i didnt have enough time to read thru the whole 9 pages but i have some questions about them: 1) is bump and rebound damping independently adjustable? 2) is ride height and spring compression independently adjustable? 3) does it come with camber adjustment in the front and rear? 4) what are the spring rates?
Figures Milo to ask me questions to which I'm somewhat unfamiliar... I do know they will be 7k/7k and their website states: 36-way adjustable dampening Made from high quality 6061 Aluminum with T6 for increased hardness Compression/Rebound adjustable Adjustable spring perch for height adjustment Adjustable body allowing maximum suspension travel Pillow Ball Top Mount w/ adjustable camber (not available for some models) Monotube High Pressure Design reduces oil leakage Electroplated body for protection from corrosion and rust One Year Limited Warranty Keefe on LGT Forums who is one of the more knowledgable posters/autocrosses just posted his opinion... http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14662&page=1&pp=40 it's too bad I didnt have enough seat time behind the wheel of the car itself. I'll give you the base points of what the car was set at and the parts that I know of on the car that is relative to the suspension: Atech Wheels (18"x8") = 20 lbs Falken Azenis RT-615s @ 225/40/18 = 25 lbs Shock settings Front/Rear = "1/2 stiff; 3/4 stiff" said DM Spring rates = 7kg/7kg Tire Pressures Front/Rear Hot = 38/36 Ride Height =ummm, really low?? Camber Front/Rear = ~-2.3/~-1.5 Perrin Rear Sway = middle setting Gas Tank = 1/4 tank I didnt have have a hard time getting early on the gas and making the rear end feel loose.. the problem that I felt out of the car was the ability to make the car lift-throttle steer going into the turn as simple as mine (I really think that's dude to set up and that more R&D from my behalf would have fixed it). I did notice the car bounced a lot up front when DM drove the car for his 3rd and 4th run with his car. I am sure that's due to the mismatch dampening vs the front spring set up, of course, that's also the probable cause of what made it easy for me to be hard on the gas and get the car to turn in because it was pretty possible to feel the front end to lift or even out the weight loads so that the front tires are not overloaded from the steering AND accelerating duties. When it comes down to it, I think the K-sports could hold their weight in a daily driving system.. I would have to say that K-sport would have to develop a more aggressive set up to actually compete in national level solo2 or track days. I remember seeing that the production model has the 7kg/9kg setup.. this will allow the car to actually (hopefully) rotate when it's in the condition of lift-throttle oversteer. Currently the car is not liking my late-braking approach or even weight transfer approach to the turn. After that said, I think the coilovers are a good entry level setup, but they are easy to hit the limit to the higher level of demand from performance drivers like myself. I would have to say, these are an alternative to the Tein Flex (not better or worse, just "different").. as far as durability, that's another story. Keefe
keefe says that they are comparable to tein flex... i have the flex coil overs and i LOVE them... with those and sway bars, the car handles like a go-kart... personally i have nothing i can compare to besides the stock suspension... however, durability is another issue... all coil overs need to be revalved from time to time... which is why its a good idea to keep ur stock suspension components even after u upgrade... i believe regular driving and moderate autoX should require revalving every 1 or 2 years... ive had mine for over a year now and they are perfectly fine so far... but different brands might wear out quicker than others... ive never heard of this particular brand... but if it gives similar performance to the flex at under a grand, then thats an awesome deal
How hard are a set of these to install or take off, perhaps compared to sways or an uppipe or something?
The tein flex is almost double of this initial offering on the ksports which is what peaked my interest. What is the typical cost of revalving/servicing? gotsol and I changed out my old wrx springs to prodrives in under 1.5 hours. Doing just a swap would be much quicker. It's just a matter of unbolting and swapping.