oil?

Discussion in 'Modifications & DIY how-to' started by knhtrdr, Nov 16, 2005.

  1. knhtrdr

    knhtrdr Active Member

    Hmm... what kind of oil do most of you guyz use synth. or reg. what's the benifits if any:confused:
     
  2. 1ll-WRX

    1ll-WRX Active Member

    i run Mobil 1 full synthetic.....
     
  3. miloman

    miloman Retired Admin

    same here...
     
  4. RADON

    RADON Member

    ditto
     
  5. 1ll-WRX

    1ll-WRX Active Member

    you get to pay the most money out of all your friends for an oil change :keke:
     
  6. Mad Mallard

    Mad Mallard the mad mallard

    i read that you should use the narrowest viscocity range, because that means there are less fillers in the oil.

    ex..10-30 is better overall than 10-40 or 20-50
     
  7. knhtrdr

    knhtrdr Active Member

    About how much does it run? and what oil change places have it in stock if I don't do it myself.
     
  8. knhtrdr

    knhtrdr Active Member

    what about 5-30 or is that to low don't have any aftermarket parts yet.
     
  9. 1ll-WRX

    1ll-WRX Active Member

    i'm pretty sure that's what i use, can't think right now....it should say right on your stock oil cap....most places will do it for like sixty bucks...that last one i did myself, sort of...and spent like forty bucks but i got a decent oil filter (K&N) so.....
     
  10. Alex

    Alex Community Founder Staff Member

    You should be able to change your oil for slightly more than what a dealership will charge. That's a 6 pack case of mobile 1 5w-30 ($30-$35 and a subaru filter ($7-$170).

    Difference? More lubrication on your engine parts, less wear (theoretically)
     
  11. SonicBoom

    SonicBoom Active Member

    another vote 4 mobil 1 syntec 5w-30... paid 30$ for 6 quarts + filter... prolly go heavier since its getting cold for the next one...

    Advantages??? Not sure, oil is still black as hell at 3000, but it makes me sleep better at night. More than likely it'll run better for the guy I sell it to in a couple years...
     
  12. sol drums

    sol drums Active Member

    mobil 1 synthetic 5w-30 :bigthumb:
     
  13. GTscoob

    GTscoob Black is Beautiful

    Mobil 1 synth. 5w30 is what I've got in it right now. I ran 15w50 for a bit before my tranny blew but didnt notice any difference.
     
  14. Alex

    Alex Community Founder Staff Member

    I may try 10-30w next one through.
     
  15. 1ll-WRX

    1ll-WRX Active Member

    ^^^yeah cause it's gettin kinda cold^^^that's what i did
     
  16. monk

    monk <b>The Kitchen Ninja!!!!</b>

    lol nah dude, i think that "honor" would go to those who use royal purple ;)


    BTW guys, i was under the impression that you use heavier viscosity in higher heat, not lower, reasoning being that the viscosity of a given weight breaks down as it heats up.
     
    Last edited: Nov 17, 2005
  17. Meredith

    Meredith Banned

    The chemical name for mobile one is acually Decene-1. They produce it by taking a long chain of decene in polymeric form and splitting off the monomers. This way you get nothing but decene-1, with no impurities or fillers. I know some of you are at tech, If you get the chance you should take a course with Dr. Stancell. He was a vice-president at mobile when they introduced mobile-one. The guy is a genius and a great professor. I don't think anyone on this board is chemical engineer, but Dr. Stancell does teach some sort of leadership class too. Anywho back to mobile one, since the oil so high purity, you get little build up in your engine. However I've been recommended to use a non-synthetic for my first 10K miles or so and then switch to mobile one. just my 2 cents.
     
    Last edited: Nov 17, 2005
  18. miloman

    miloman Retired Admin

    thats what i thought too... ive been using 10-30 in my car all the time... dont think it gets cold enough here to go any thinner
     
  19. monk

    monk <b>The Kitchen Ninja!!!!</b>

    hmmm... doing some reading...
     
    Last edited: Nov 17, 2005
  20. Genya

    Genya No Longer Up At Odd Hours

    I dont like to use any weight less than 10w on my STi, since i have an oil cooled turbo.

    When it was stock, it didnt like 5w-30 Mobil One and ate oil often. Even on 3k intervals.

    Last year I used mostely non-synth 10w-30 or 15w-40w in Summer, and a 10w-30w in winter. Changed pretty much 3k miles or less. No oil eating problems.

    When I get unlazy I will move to 20w-50 summer, and 10w-30w winter. Will get a case of redline for each.
     
  21. monk

    monk <b>The Kitchen Ninja!!!!</b>

    Here's the rundown guys...

    here's a really good writeup on oil and viscosity
    http://www.micapeak.com/info/oiled.html
    note that some of these numbers are outdated and you should really go looking on teh mfr's sites for current #s (like i did below...)

    looks like amsoil might the better stuff on the market in the 5w30 range... according to the numbers on their respective websites(judging by viscosity index-what keeps the bearings happy, and flashpoint-the point at which the oil burns off higher numbers are better)...at least the two most important specs...

    5w30 full synth oils...

    Mobil One
    Flash Point, ºC, ASTM D 92 230
    Viscosity Index, ASTM D 2270 169

    Amsoil
    Flash Point °C (°F) (ASTM D-92) 228
    Viscosity Index (ASTM D-2270) 178

    Royal Purple
    Flash Point °C (°F) (ASTM D-92) 235
    D-2270 Viscosity Index 161

    Redline
    Flash Point °C (°F) (ASTM D-92) 252 (<- i'm wondering if this # is helpful for the turbo though, since temps can get crazy high)
    Viscosity Index, ASTM D 2270 153

    Although when you move up to 10x30, it's clear that redline has substantial advantage over the others...
    Flash Point °C (°F) (ASTM D-92) 250
    Viscosity Index (ASTM D-2270) 170

    royal
    Flash Point °C (°F) (ASTM D-92) 235
    Viscosity Index (ASTM D-2270) 141

    mobile
    Flash Point °C (°F) (ASTM D-92) 224
    Viscosity Index (ASTM D-2270) 147

    amsoil
    Flash Point °C (°F) (ASTM D-92) 234
    Viscosity Index (ASTM D-2270) 174
     
    Last edited: Nov 18, 2005
  22. MarkM2016GTI

    MarkM2016GTI Supporting Member

    I heard from many mechanics that it also depends on how cold or hot the air temp is.

    Mark
     
  23. miloman

    miloman Retired Admin

    i dont think it gets that cold here
     
  24. MarkM2016GTI

    MarkM2016GTI Supporting Member

    It's starting to get really cold now. I think it is very important to use different viscosities depending on the weather. I know that it isn't that frequent here in the SE region, but if somebody lives in the mountains of GA, that might come in to play. Just my 2 cents...


    Mark
     
  25. monk

    monk <b>The Kitchen Ninja!!!!</b>

    what depends on air temp?

    sanremo... if someone's using the stock 5w30, they're already running oil that was designed for very cold weather... now if they were going to run in extreme heat, then maybe something heavier would be called for (or at least something with a higher VI and flashpoint).
     
  26. MarkM2016GTI

    MarkM2016GTI Supporting Member

    Thanks for the clarification Monk...


    Mark
     

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