Requesting some upgrade advice.

Discussion in 'Modifications & DIY how-to' started by Hazzard, Apr 25, 2006.

  1. Hazzard

    Hazzard Member

    First off, my car has many suspension mods on it in addition to brakes, so that is out of the way. Performance wise, it has an up-pipe, dp, and cat back w/ a AccessECU reflash (i will ecentually upgrade to AP) and a ported and clipped stock turbo. i thought that all of this would be satisfactory, but the mod bug has bitten hard, and now i want some more power.

    i guess my next rout is a turbo upgrade, but i really don't know where to start. my car is a daily driver that i take to every autocross i can make it to.
    so, any recomendations?

    -ben
     
  2. Deke

    Deke Active Member

    maybe a larger intercooler...sti, perrin, turboxs?
     
  3. wrxguy

    wrxguy Member

    Get a bigger TMIC, a little bigger turbo, perrin boost controler(ebcs) and some tuning from SOG your good to go!
     
    Last edited: Apr 25, 2006
  4. clemsonscooby

    clemsonscooby Active Member

    Moderate turbo upgrades:
    16g or vf34, sti pink injectors, wahlboro fuel pump, better tmic, and a protune. A lot of people think the 16g is better than the vf34 for total performance. I would say collect them over time and acquire used parts, besides the turbo. Definitely stay with the TMIC though for autox. Don't go to a vf22, because it takes the longest to spool, the vf30 takes longer also. I would say get a set of pulleys also to help out on the low end.
     
  5. Alex

    Alex Community Founder Staff Member

  6. Hazzard

    Hazzard Member

    thanks.
    i was trying to figure out which turbo would work w/ what i had in mind and got swamped by all the choices.

    now that i have a starting point, i can start figuring all this out and collecting peices...
     
  7. heathbar

    heathbar Member

    thanks for the post, i also have alot to learn about turbo upgrades! :wiggle:
     
  8. yerrow

    yerrow Active Member

    if you want good responsiveness for autoX then don't go too big. if you're not lookin' for big #'s then the vf34 wouldn't be bad for the autoX
     
  9. Meredith

    Meredith Banned


    Put some v710s on your car... lots of fun and they don't make your car unreliable.
     
  10. Hazzard

    Hazzard Member

    what would you guys reccomend for a larger TMIC? STI or something aftermarket? does one have an advantage over the other?
     
  11. bluetwo

    bluetwo Active Member

    A Perrin top mount would definitely have an advantage over the STi piece as would pretty much any larger bar and plate type intercooler. Make sure you check into Y-pipes before you try to install though.
     
  12. Alex

    Alex Community Founder Staff Member

    Common brands: TXS, ebay brand TXS, Perrin. Two important qualities of note are fin density and core volume. The ebay is the largest of the bunch (visual comparison), hyperflow is a close second [~635 cu. in.], as well as perrin [600 cu. in.] is a close third. As far as density goes, I havent personally compared the hyperflow to the perrin, however, compared to the ebayer (most common comparison), the hyperflow's fin density is larger (see pictures below). I did some diggin on nasioc, and found this thread http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=861014.

    Size comparison of ebay, hyperflow and stock wrx respectively.
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    Fin density of ebay
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    Fin density of hyperflow
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    So, as you can see, the turboxs actually has a higher fin density than the ebay tmic.

    Check out that thread for fitment, etc.
     
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  13. GTscoob

    GTscoob Black is Beautiful

    Buy Veck's VF24. It's almost identical to my VF29, with which I can get 19psi at or before 3000rpm, perfect for autocross. I think he was selling it for less than $300. Spools quicker than a VF30/34 but also wont make near as much topend but will spool quicker and be torquier.

    http://www.wrxatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6308
     
  14. miloman

    miloman Retired Admin

    APS i think is bigger than the hyperflow
     
  15. Hazzard

    Hazzard Member

    i am also thinking about doing some track days eventually, how would the VF24 hold up to that?
     
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  16. GTscoob

    GTscoob Black is Beautiful

    I'd imagine it would still hang with most other IHI turbos. If you were in town I'd give you a ride, it's pretty quick. My only dyno numbers that I made with it was 220whp/230lb*ft of torque at 19psi but that was peaked out at 3500 because beyond that my dead MAF sensor (unknown at the time) was making my car extremely rich. Those numbers at least show you how it pulls up to 3500 and with a bad tune.

    Sorry for accidently editing your post, I clicked the wrong button.
     
  17. Alex

    Alex Community Founder Staff Member

    It isnt nearly as common as the other 3 so I didnt include it in my list.
     
  18. suby113

    suby113 Member

    From What I understand The top mount STI intercooler is about the best thing if your going to stay with the top mount set up. In my opinion Your just wasting money for something larger because the cooling affect will be the same from the hood scoop no matter what. I think Top speed can reiterate on this.
     
  19. Weapon

    Weapon 90lbs of dynamite Supporting Member

    gt35R and turboxs front mount..that should cure your want for more power....for a little while atleast
     
  20. Alex

    Alex Community Founder Staff Member

    The larger scoop (wrx vs sti) is not just for aesthetics I believe; however, the splitter is the key here. If you can direct more air over a larger surface area it will be more effect than that same amount of air spread over a smaller surface area (see aftermarket tmic versus stock sti tmic).
     
  21. WrxCrazy

    WrxCrazy Active Member

    good info
     

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