Help. Please Whats going on guys, I was just curious about the 06 Wrx's transmission's and clutch's. What would cause the clutch and transmission to break in such a short amount of time. And yes I am talking about mine, I only have 11000 miles on it. I have always been careful when I drive my car, I know all about slipping the clutch when launching the car and shifting 1st to 2nd. Yeah I would sometimes grind a few times, I mean this is my first manual car but I have always been a careful driver. I just found out that my 3rd gear blew and that my clutch is in bad condition.:wtc:
Any grinding is bad for the whole transmission. But it shouldn't cause a gear failure as long as it's only happened a couple of times. If you slip the clutch a lot for long periods of time and hold the car on hills with the clutch all the time, that would cause it to go bad fairly soon. The thing about "launches" as alot of people refer to them is that they aren't what the car was intended to do, and slipping the clutch merely prevents the drivetrain components from breaking right away. It's not a safe practice by any stretch of the imagination.
a lot of manual transmission virgins tend to abuse their clutch and transmission without even knowing it... the 06 wrx is supposed to have the RA thickness gearset so it is harder to break... i'd recommend u take it in to the dealership and have it checked out
But remember if they break the transmission caseing apart and they say abuse your going to get stuck with the tear apart labor cost (trust me i know its about 750$)
Got my car with 26 miles on it. The dealer already told me that they were not going to cover it. It appears that my 3rd gear is gone and my clutch is in pretty bad shape. What is weird about all this is that all the other gears are fine. The dealer also said that I have been launching my car and thats way my transmission is like this. But my friend pointed out that if I was launching my car why would 3rd go out, wouldn't 1st be the one to break or show some kind of abuse? Even if I was launching my car a few times I know how to launch it.One of my friends who has worked on 3 Subarus even told me, he said that I learned how to launch my car in a short amount of time. So right now I am planning on getting a stage 2 clutch and letting sog fix my tranny. What else can I do?
we'll what i would do is complain to subaru of america, Call their corporate office and let them know whats going on tell them you were not racing it or launching it. they will work with ya, tell them you will claim lemon law (if they try and play hard ball )on them which get them pretty much wanting to fix your car quickly, let them know which subaru dealer you will be taking it too to get fixed they will cover it. i hadsomething similar happen to me except for some reason I was loosing boost, come to find out the #4 cylinder was loosing like 80% compression. the dealer tried to tell me i was racing the car and abusing it so I contacted subaru of america and complained about it. i told them I was going to claim lemon law on the vehicle and contacted a lemon law lawer who is chicago or something like that( you can google this office it's free) they don't charge you they charge subaru if you need their services. We'll needless to say when all was said and done subaru had my car fixed in a week with a brand new short block! give it try man call Subaru and let them know the deal.:sx:
Yeah but the thing is my 3rd gear looks ...... I don't even know what to call it. My friend told me that this could have happened by trying to go into 5th at like 120mph and accedently(spelling) went to 3rd, but this has never happened.
Your car has some serious issues if you did all of that to an 06'. I would claim the car has been abused or something. There is no reason for that equipment to break in the next 5 years unless someone was bad to it.
maybe it's because it was defective.. there is no way in hell to break a brand new sti tranny. maybe the peice was defective
Don't know... all I know is that I didn't abuse my car. But like I said I will be getting a stage 2 clutch and let sog fix my tranny
yif ur fixing ur tranny i would let u know it would be better if you go with ra gear sets in the tranny, u will be paying a little bit more but it's better then another dead tranny over all i had same problem in 2nd gear.. so i feel you on that.. good luck..
Alright guys, I have been told by SOG that the cost for a new tranny/clutch is going to be around $7,000.00! I mean wtf my car has never seen the track or the strip.They never told us the reason why my tranny blew, all they gave us were reasons why it might have gotten like this. They said it was abused but they don't have an evidence to back it up. I only used the car to go to work and back, drive about 40 miles a day! Please someone please give me some advice, the car only has 12000 miles on it. Come on how can an almost brand new tranny go out so quickly. I don't know how it is not being coverd. The problem is that the car is already done. First they said it was going to be around 4-5K so whats going on. I really think we are not being treated fairly.
Were you droping the clutch from high revs? If you really weren't abusing it then it should be covered under warranty. Why are you paying anything to begin with?
Right now I don't really know what to do, I really need my car back. My mom was just in an accident yesterday and it looks like her car might be a total lost, and right now we all need our cars back. We are all using my older sister's car but she has a job to and needs her car. I need it back because I go to work all the way down at Buckhead The thing is that I was driving normal. This is what happened I was leaving work with my frien in front of me. Since he has a new car he was breaking it in. SO first-second I shifted around 3k second-third around 4k was in 3rd for about 3-4 second and then I hear a loud nosie and my shift knob got hard so I put it back to neutral and pulled over. Then I left the car near my second job and told my dad what happened and later in the day we called the tow truck and it took it to SOG. But the rest of the gears are fine Look guys I am not trying to give SOG a bad name, I love that place. Was planing on getting all my suspension stuff done there getting a protune but now with this problem I don't know if I want to go back there
Well force them to prove it was your fault the part failed. If they can't, then its covered under waranty and you owe nothing.
We have not payed anything yet How can I,:wtc: They already said that it was not going to be covered. Can I still make them change there minds after a month and a half
You can call Subaru of America and ask them why the hell you should have to pay for a new transmission at 12k miles if you didn't beat the crap out of it.
they are probably denying you claim beacuse of the use of aftermarket parts. if the claim is over a certian amount they have to clear it by soa. There are federal laws to protect the consumer and the use of aftermarket parts. Here is the law: Federal Warranty Laws - The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act (15 U.S.C. 2302(C)) This federal law regulates warranties for the protection of consumers. The essence of this law concerning aftermarket auto parts is that a vehicle manufacturer may not condition a written or implied warranty on the consumers using parts or services which are identified by brand, trade, or corporate name (such as the vehicle makers brand) unless the parts or service are provided free of charge. The law means that the use of an aftermarket part alone is not cause for denying the warranty. However, the law's protection does not extend to aftermarket parts in situations where such parts actually caused the damage being claimed under the warranty. Further, consumers are advised to be aware of any specific terms or conditions stated in the warranty which may result in its being voided. The law states in relevant part: “No warrantor of a consumer product may condition his written or implied warranty of such product on the consumers using, in connection with such product, any article or service (other than article or service provided without charge under the terms of the warranty) which is identified by brand, trade or corporate name....” (15 U.S.C. 2302(C)). Denied If you are denied legitimate warranty claim...SEMA (Specialty Equipment Manufacturer Association) has some tips for you..be sure to read this
when it comes down to 7k worth of damage they will blame it on anything to not have to pay for it. all dealers are this way. you have to make them prove the little bit of mods you have caused this. if theres no proof then they have to pay. but you may have to get legal help to get to that point.
Stage II Shouldn't void your warranty in this case, because it wasn't your ecu that failed. Only if your part has a significant play in destroying a transmission (new clutch, new gears, etc) Should this warranty be voided. Craig
Well... being stage II he might find it more difficult (I thought it was stock). Increasing power to the wheels does put more strain on the drivetrain. I mean, if you slap a giant bastard of a turbo on and blow a differential because you're making 350 to the wheels now you could expect that not to be covered. If it was bone stock I'd say he's getting screwed, but stage II mods do lend some validity to SoG's warranty denial.
But what is the most tq the 06 tranny can handle. I mean I am pretty sure I am not pushing over 280wtq
its not necessarily how much power you were making but the way you were driving it. you can blow the tranny with a completely stock wrx. Im not saying you have raced your car or drove it too aggressively. I am not taking sides either but as moose said SoG can deny your warranty based on the use of aftermarket parts. I hope something works out for ya
Sorry, but the kind if failure your transmission showed, means it was not a mechanical failure due to defect. http://wjmrallyesport.com/01-156-0351672.pdf
Did all that even had an attorney envolved and all i got was a big FU but nicer. this is after my transmission was rebuilt by the dealer and then blew up after 500 miles i think there was a post somewhere on here from about a year ago. All you can really do is suck it spend the cash and never launch it again...well thats what i did anyways.
Lets try to keep this confined to one thread since its covering the same topic. As for my .02, moding a car that is under warranty brings risks. I do believe that you may not have been intentionally abusing your car, but AP stage 2 puts out significantly more power than a stock WRX and, most drivers would be driving more aggressively with said power. Since SOG has no way to verify your driving habits, all they can do is look at the facts. You have a fairly modified vehicle putting out more horsepower and TQ than the stock transmission is expected to handle under warranty. Its also your first manual vehicle and as someone else pointed out, those newer to driving a manual probably are a little harder on the transmission than someone who had been driving a stick for several years. Add all these factors together and you have a messy situation. I feel for you, but am not sure that there is a really strong case to be made against SOG deciding that your tranny failure is due to abnormal usage. One other thing to keep in mind, I remember reading a news story about a guy who filled a lawsuit against SOA for not covering his warranty work. Not only did he lose, he had to cover SOA's legal fee's plus pay THEM damages. Just keep that in mind and be very sure you truly never abused your transmission before you take this too far...
Unfortunately if this is brought to court chances are putting stage 2 on the car is considered abuse.
I think your just going to have to eat it. Dunno what you did to break 3rd gear(possibly defect out of factory), but having power mods puts you in the denyable category. Looking from a SOA stand point, I would see no reason to warrent your claim even if you tried to take it to court. Sucks, but SOA can't pay to warrent everything that breaks cause people juice up their cars.
ok, i just read this whole thread and now i have to put my 2 cents in. this guy came to us with a broken trans. he said that he never raced it or launched it, etc.. well when we pulled the tranny out and looked at it and the clutch and flywheel... third gear was gone, the clutch was burnt up and the flywheel was blue from heat and had micro cracks in it. it totally looks like someone missed shifting into fifth gear from fourth and hit third instead. due to all of these things the normal 3 year 36,000 mile warranty will not cover the repair. SOA WILL NOT cover any clutches or trans if any signs of missuse are apparent. i feel for the guy, but the fact is that the driver was at fault. not the product. SOG is not the bad guy who says, "we're not going to cover your trans". that's the warranty rep that works for SOA who makes that call. i'll try and see if i can find some pics of the damaged pieces to post up here. meanwhile, sounds like opperator error.
7Wolf, Not sure you need (or should) post pics, just in case the original poster decides to escalate this issue. As for this thread, I will leave it open for a little while longer, but unless something constructive gets posted, it will probably be locked...
We were told this but that never happened. I never saw the tranny or clutch, my dad and a good friend did. Its ok if you post some pictures of it I don't mind. I would really like to see them
Also, a sharp downshift from 5th to 3th can cause it at high speeds. The transmission is not designed to take reverse loads....
The important thing to note here is that it is *NOT* SoG's decision... it all comes down to the Subaru of America Regional Warranty Representative. Subaru of Gwinnett does not decide what gets covered and what doesn't, if the rep says: "Fix it." We fix it. If the rep says "not covered due to xxx" we tell the customer, "sorry, SOA says xxx..." I think everybody on here knows that we try our best to get everything that should be covered by warranty, covered by warranty... anything questionable gets decided by the rep... Newkid06 - putting real RA gears in there is usually near $2k... if you have a clutch for us to put in at the same time, it's no extra charge SS
well, SOG is a great dealership and i think if the parts were infact defective that they would not hesitate to cover it... bit imho if the user shifted fromfrith in to third.. and thats why it broke... its no wonder it wouldnt be covered by warrnt