The dynamat.. it hurtses usssssssss

Discussion in 'Modifications & DIY how-to' started by moose, Apr 7, 2006.

  1. moose

    moose Infina Mooooooose!

    Just got done dynamatting my passenger side door. Didn't take more than an hour or so, but god damn I got a crap-ton of cuts (small ones, like paper cuts) on my hands from the thin foil-like layer on it.

    Well worth it though. I used the Xtreme stuff which is pretty light weight and pliable (much nicer to install than original dynamat). Door closes more solidly, lots less road noise and vibration and crap. Speaker sounds more solid.
     
  2. Brian

    Brian Active Member

    I've been thinking about this. Which areas are you dynamatting? Which make the most difference?
     
  3. pEd

    pEd This ain't no Piccadilly!

    all this stereo talk makes me think that a wall of 15's may be in your future??
    j/k

    are you using the real dynamat or the cheaper stuff??
    My neighbor wants to get some done and is looking at the cheap stuff.
     
  4. rolling_trip

    rolling_trip Active Member

    cheap stuff works pretty good, i still have about a roll and a half in my closet
     
  5. calmnothing

    calmnothing Shlimp Flied Lice Supporting Member

    You guys want to know a secret? For $50 you can get enough mat to do 2 entire cars. At Home Depot they sell Weather Mat. It's basically the same stuff but in giant 20 pound rolls. It's made for roof insulation. With my old L I did the entire car including floor, ceiling, B pillars, trunk, firewall, and doors. Cost me $25 and like 6 hours.
     
  6. lostinthewoods

    lostinthewoods Frisco Tx Baller

    Ped you still need a stereo :)
     
  7. yerrow

    yerrow Active Member

    i just dynamatted my volvo's doors today while i installed my new double-din headunit, coax's in all doors and my 12/amp combo. i would have rather used hushmat or raamat because of cost but the original will do, it just costs alittle more. sounds good though
     
  8. ShaneSTI

    ShaneSTI Active Member

    very interesting. i will looking into that. thought of insulating my STi since its rather noisy stock as ya'll know. thanks for throwing that out there. i'll keep that in mind when i get back.
     
  9. moose

    moose Infina Mooooooose!

    Front doors for now. Will probably add some in other areas. Trunk, rear doors, roof, floor would all be good candidates.

    Nah, I went for the premium stuff. Dynamat Xtreme. It's thin, not very heavy, and very easy to put on. Old school and cheap stuff generally involves heat guns, cursing and general hassle. Other than cutting the shit out of your hands this is a pretty easy install.
     
    Last edited: Apr 7, 2006
  10. Mad Mallard

    Mad Mallard the mad mallard

    actually, the wheel welss are also a good place... lost of road noise from tires

    oh, and B quiet is also good mat

    www.bquiet.com
     
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2006
  11. GTscoob

    GTscoob Black is Beautiful

    I think there was something called Brown Bread that kids at my old high school used to use. It was some spray insulation that worked really well and was pretty cheap.
     
  12. bigb996

    bigb996 teh Wannabe Mod

    i surrounded my speakers with it but it weighs so much if you do the whole car it gains you a lot of weight.
     
  13. Mad Mallard

    Mad Mallard the mad mallard

    brown bread, by BQUIET. ;p
     
  14. moose

    moose Infina Mooooooose!

    Alex over here at Moose's. He is using the dynamat xtreme, Ive held it, and it really is not all that heavy, just picked up aout 2sq ft sheet and it prob weighs at most 2lbs. The old dynamat is HEAVY, but that's oldschool, this is the new school :eek:

    So, in total, 3-5sq ft. per door x 4 doors + 4 sq ft for spare tire well = 16-24lbs additional weight for a car that is damn near silent on the highway. We just drove back up from the Master's, its by far quieter than my STi.
     
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2006
  15. Brian

    Brian Active Member

    Nice. I'd like to see this done at an install day. Do the doors panels still look good after reassembly?
     
  16. moose

    moose Infina Mooooooose!

    There's no visible difference, period.
     
  17. WrxCrazy

    WrxCrazy Active Member

    they are kinda all same but the company that makes them.. i used dynamatt in my old car, it worked fine, my friend just installed some cheap stuff and it worked fine and quiet
     
  18. Ayrton

    Ayrton Member

  19. JJang12

    JJang12 Active Member

    I was thinking about putting RAAMmat. will 1 roll (62.5 sqft) be sufficient for whole car??
     
  20. Ayrton

    Ayrton Member

    I used 90% of one roll for just the chassis. If you are careful, you could knock out the whole car with one roll. I ordered two rolls, and plenty of Ensolite for mine.
     
  21. goixiz

    goixiz Active Member

    sure its the same stuff ?
    does it have micro fibers that cause lung problems ?
    I know everytime i go in the attic to do something i itch for days. till the last time i wear a painters nylon jumpsuit but sweat like a pig in it
     
  22. Ayrton

    Ayrton Member

    I am sure it is asphalt based roofing paper. Not really what you want in a car, unless you like the smell of fresh asphalt.
     
  23. Alex

    Alex Community Founder Staff Member

    The itching is the fiberglass in your lungs and on your skin ;)
     
  24. moose

    moose Infina Mooooooose!

    So the secret is that Dynamat Xtreme is just rebadged Home Depot stuff? :rofl:
     
  25. Brian

    Brian Active Member

    Isn't the xtreme the better polybutyl stuff?
     
  26. moose

    moose Infina Mooooooose!

    http://www.dynamat.com/technical_specs_dynamat_xtreme.html

    Weighs .45lbs/sq ft too. The bond strength is about 5x greater than original Dynamat stuff; trust me, it STICKS. (Alex can attest!)

    Wanted to add this too:

    Original dynamat has an acoustic loss of 0.08 at +68 degrees.
    Xtreme has an acoustic loss of 0.417 at the same temp.

    So the original converts 8% of vibrational energy to heat; Xtreme converts 42% !

    The differences are less at colder temps, but Xtreme is still far ahead (.240 at 32F vs 0.16 at 32F).
     
    Last edited: Apr 12, 2006
  27. Alex

    Alex Community Founder Staff Member

    Yep, how did you guess!
     
  28. Ayrton

    Ayrton Member

    No.

    Home Depot = asphalt based roofing paper (also known as B-Quiet Extreme, Brown Bread, Dynamat Original, eDead v1, eDead v1SE and FatMat)

    What you want is a butyl based product.

    Second Skin Damplifier, Damplifier Pro, Dynamat Xtreme, and RAAMmat.

    http://www.sounddeadenershowdown.com/
     
  29. moose

    moose Infina Mooooooose!

    My sarcasm emitter must be broken. :(
     
  30. Alex

    Alex Community Founder Staff Member

    Sure is :slap:
     
  31. Ayrton

    Ayrton Member

    Sorry it may be my detector. :hsugh:
     
  32. Mad Mallard

    Mad Mallard the mad mallard

    neat site.

    minor correction, B-quiet is actually a butyl composite. B-quiet Ultimate is just a higher percentage.

    and also moose, B-quiet ultimate is only .02 less on the Acoustic Loss at that temp, and costs alot less...I think I'll be sampling them against my last dynamat purchase and sharing with everyone.

    http://www.b-quiet.com/compare.html
     
  33. moose

    moose Infina Mooooooose!

    I'll be interested in hearing your results. FWIW, their $ comparisons are a little off; notice how they base their price/sq ft on "150+" square feet ordered. :)

    Looks like 50 sq ft is $130 + shipping for around $140. I can find Dynamat Xtreme for $120 shipped for 36 sq ft. So $2.80 vs $3.33 for me... not a huge difference.
     
  34. WrxCrazy

    WrxCrazy Active Member

    dynamat X is what i wanna go but can sum1 post a picture of how to install it in front doors.. cause the stock plastic and tar is there and the controls for auto door locks and how do i install it in there do i skip the doors and locks and just go taking out plastic and tar first.. i mean can sum1 explan how to do this so i can start on it?
     

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