2013 STI Rotated Turbo Project

links?

 

I'll have to find them. They are obviously shot in Mexico as he is burying the speedometer.

 

just pm me them

 

I would strongly encourage you to think twice about hard wiring your pump. You need the stock FPC in place to send a PWM signal to the pump to regulate how much fuel it flows. Not doing so will mean your pump will not prime before startup and will be running 100% duty cycle all the time not to mention if you are ever in an accident your pump will still be pumping fuel through possible broken lines.

 

I will not be wiring it that way.
I'll hook the battery supply to a relay fired by the PWM-based controller.
Basically the FPC will use pulse width like it does now, only what it controls with that pulse width will change. Instead of it directly controlling the ~13.5v / XAmps normally going straight to the pump off the wiring harness, it will control my relay with my battery supply.

Retain stock FPC PWM control, but bypassing stock small gauge wiring, OR I might wire them in parallel since it's DC, I haven't decided I have to break out a flow path from the subaru manual of that part of the harness first.

it will be similar to this:
http://aeromotiveinc.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/16301.pdf

Being an electrical engineer this part comes naturally.

 

Still not following you. The only thing the pwm signal will do is open or close the relay. You are still not getting a pwm signal to the pump.

 

same thing you guys did here basically
http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/fuel-pump-control-module-143860p14.html

 

wrong page of that thread but you get the idea

 

So you are just rewiring the FPCM and sending it cleaner power with new wire. I thought you meant you were bypassing the FPCM entirely and pretty much just running a straight wire from your battery to a relay and the PWM signal was going to trip the relay to close and send power to the fuel pump.

 

Bingo.

 

Interesting setup this guy went with, he got the full aeromotive kit but retained stock 4231 series config for plumbing.
Pro's / Con's of series VS parallel?

 

Nice.....which FPR are you using?

Also, I would run the lines in parallel but just make sure the lines are equal length coming from the distribution block.

 

using the aeromotive one there in the top right of the pic, i'm going to go through their instructions and see what they have to say.

 

parallel has some thing about vapor lock, but I don't think it matters are you are not maxing it creating large pockets for vapor to form.

I like series but that's because it seems to suit the firing order or some logic of that nature made me opt to keep it.

 

Pictures were so big that I didnt see it

 

I post pictures like texan's make steaks. BIGGER = BETTER!

I'll probably do it like they have in the instructions, king said that's how he does them and I think that's series i'm going to check it out now been busy with work today.

 

Yeah, this is one of those topics that it seems no one is really right or wrong. I would just say do what makes you feel comfortable and go with it. I cant remember the exact reasoning I went parallel but also cant remember why I didnt stay series either.

 

I am going to do it like this guy did.






Aeromotive instructions have it flowing the same way, he just made it nice and neat.

 

Not quite equal length, but I guess I don't get it.

 

It is ran in series so no need to run equal length.

 

Second pic is parallel, line in between the rails T's to supply both rails, then both rails merge at the regulator and return to the tank

 

wouldnt that be considered series? I mean from an electrical flow. that is how series would look like.

This is how I have always seen parallel and the way I ran it on my Subaru

 

No that's series. Parallel has the distribution in the middle and each line feeding and returning from the rail are equal length which is important. In series everything is flowing the same direction so it doesn't matter if the lines are equal or not.

 

Maybe you dudes are a little rusty seeing that you don't own subaru's any more. But this is series


And this is parallel



There is a big difference, the first pic the fuel flows one way, just like a series circuit. break the line and the fuel never makes it past the break.

The bottom pic is what he said he is going to do. Fuel enters the T "SPLITS" like a junction on a parallel circuit fuel flows separately to each rail so that if a line broke one branch would still get fuel. Then the fuel exits at the top of the rails to meet the regulator where it builds pressure.

 

I stand corrected. The location of the distr box threw me off. I still think it needs to be equal length in parallel but does it really matter?

 

I'm with dummy^^^

 

The 2nd image comes from aeromotive's install instructions. This is how TSM installs them as well as everyone else i've asked.

 

Also i've only seen agency power and other fuel rail kits installed with equal length lines in parallel. I have yet to see an aeromotive install done that way leading me to believe that it isn't required.

Aeromotive steps down the line size from 8AN to 6AN after each rail too which creates a venturi effect of positive pressure in the rails. This might be why it doesn't matter, but I am not "fully qualified" in the field of fluid dynamics, only self taught.

 

Some teaser shots:

 

Pretty sweet dude

 

DS,

It's been a while since I've seen you. Looks like you've been busy with the car since last I saw you. Glad you got a taste of uber-fastedness, if only for a short while. Keep the positive attitude and get that thing back together. I definitely want a ride in that thing (without the 5.0 involved like the TT 370Z after the dinner at Perimeter).

My Scooby is my Daily, so I tried to restrain myself in doing anything crazy to it. That's what my 93 5.0 LX is for. Even it will be tame compared to yours, and most scooby builds that surpass 400whp (I'm only shooting for 400-450whp with my 5.0L using a pair of slightly oversized jounal bearing T25s).

I wasted a couple of hours yesterday skimming through this thread... so keep it interesting .

Was the head just getting a valve/seat job? or are you getting it ported?

Congrats on the wife's bubble belly and hope you get the car done before that little distraction shows up.
My boy showed up almost 8 yrs ago on July 4th. He's been a rollercoaster, but it's been fun (mostly)

 

thanks a lot man, posts like this from people like you are what maintain my motivation to give back.

Hopefully some more updates soon.

 

You don't know it but I'm racing you. Started putting mine back together. Still got a long way to go, but we're going to see who finishes first.

Also what head studs you running? I'm thinking about swapping to some h11's or CA625+
Wasn't sure if you were getting the block pinned this go round in preparation for some high boost.

 

ARP head studs, no pinning of the block I would have had to re-machine everything. In my case all it needed was to be re-honed, rings were fine and pistons were fine. Didn't want to remachine the entire block just to put pins in when I most likely will not need them for pump gas on this turbo.

Also, EPIC RACE BRAH! I raced Al Friedman (dynoflash) last time, and he gave up halfway through and decided to go stock location and change his plans, so this will be even more fun.

 

I guess this means you will be busy this weekend!?!?!

 

Very :evil::drool:

 

There goes some of my leave time. but you know I'm always willing to stop by, help out, lend some knowledge, drink your beer and assure that little details wont blow your motor. LMAO!

 

bwahaha LOPEZ with the wit

i need two AVCS exhaust cam gears can someone txt brandon I don't have his number maybe he has a pair. If anyone else has a pair let me know.
Otherwise everything is on hold. Mine have to be rebuilt and cleaned, the spring in them complicates that.

 

I have 3 pairs.

 

too bad you aren't local,
and selling them.
i could get them from flatirons in CO tuesday at the soonest.

 

I doubt troncalli would have them in stock, but they did have the oil cooler today which was kinda cool. i'll call them in the morning for the helluvit

 

Don't take that long to deliver. And everything is for sale. $800 and I will be in Atlanta at 2:00 Pm. Not being an ass being serious.

 

well they are 156$ each from flatirons and something like that from subaru, problem is I have a date with doug on wednesday and I hate to stand a nice guy like that up on such short notice.

 

matt ball perhaps he has a ton of stuff

 

nah matt doesn't have any
Waiting for troncalli to call me back.
Delette what if I met you at the SC state line or something, just exploring my options. 300$ from subaru, 320$ from flatirons in CO but both would be next week i'd have to reschedule tuning which sucks.

800$ kinda ridiculous, but conway is practically myrtle beach. That's like a 5hr drive lol I don't blame you.

 

It's entirely too late in the day now man. We are fixing to go out. Sorry.

 

find ihadmail on nasioc, he was in Aiken SC and parting a sti engine recently.

 

I know James. I will text him now.