subaru version of the ft86

It's the type of car that does it for me, I've seen enough quick s2000's and miata's with very little done that I've got envy.

 

Those little bastards take the turns way too quickly..

I definitely need to drive this thing first, but so far the comments in the MT article about how it feels are promising. It will undoubtedly will need some suspension mods (to at least correct the understeer mentioned in the article), as most cars do. I'm thinking it will be fairly reliable being NA and the whole purpose of the car being a no-compromise sporty and low cost car is perfect. Although those things contradict themselves, and the understeer was obviously a compromise.. We shall see. I'm excited, but it still could be hype. Either way, the idea of owning a miata/s2000 like car without having to admit you drive a miata/honda would be nice. No offense to anyone :rofl:

 

I wouldn't be embarrassed to admit that I drive a Miata or S2000.
Both are reputable cars from reputable companies.

 

you drive a mazda 3

 

:jerk:

 

too bad by the time it passes all the crash test and bs federal crap it will looked washed down like the rest of the scion line.

 

Who the hells wants a Rustang?

 

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2131

-460mm from ground to the center of the crank (low CG)
-53:47 F/R weight split
-Cd (coefficient of drag) of 0.27 (this is really good)
-D-4S tech (direct injection pairs with secondary EFI)
-1,998cc Displacement
-200 HP
-151.2 ft-lbs torque
-12.5:1 Compression ratio (I guessing on this one, and I really hope I'm wrong)
-86mm x 86mm bore/stroke
-Mcpherson suspension front/ Double A-arm rear
-Rear seats fold (as one unit)
-Cup holders can slide
-Can carry 4 tires

from ft86club.com

 

this car with very minor suspension mods will shit on many cars including the WRX in the corners IMO. And even if it doesnt churn out faster lap times than the wrx/sti, i would have so much more fun controlling the balance and feeling the delicate steering with a good driving position.

I still love my bugeye but the ft86 seems to address all the issues I want to fix on it

 

I agree. Itll be a fun car.

 

So is the subaru version not coming stateside?

 

i think we`ll likely see the scion version and the subie version in the states.

 

You totally missed my point old man. You said who wants a Scion? There a TON of Scion's on the road....hell I know of a member on here that has a Scion xB.

The point was just cause you don't like Scion's doesn't mean that others won't as well.

 

I might actually get into one of these when they come to the states. All matter of space inside tho. being 6.2 is what kept me from getting into a s2k.

 

It would be great if they labeled the FRS a Toyota. Even better if they kept the FT-86 name. A true successor to the Levin/Trueno.
Toyota needs a flagship sports car the FT-86 is the perfect car for it. I mean, they have the LFA, of course branded a Lexus, but really it's Toyota, but it's 350-400k so definitely out of most people's price range.

 

The real question is..When you pop the hood how many toyota emblems will you see, and how many Subaru ones.

Completely worthless story: When I had my Plymouth Laser, I hid the fact from my grandfathers that every part under the hood had a Mitsu symbol. To quote my brother's friend "The Japs shot at and tried to kill them, what do you expect?" lol.

 

It should basically be 99% Subaru, 1% Yamaha. Subaru brought the engine, Toyota brought the body, mixed/matched, and here we have the FRS/BRZ.

 

I just am so leery of the Toyota involvement in this project. They have not had a reputable sports car in this price range since the Supra and MR2 turbo... All the Lexus stuff looks pretty and has some cool technology but they still end up being soulless appliances.

I hope that this car changes these things and that Subaru gets the credit they are due on this project.

 

according to subaru, it's 100% subaru engineering, 100% toyota design...

 

so will it be a subaru or a toyota in the US? or both?

 

scion in the states for sure, no toyota. everything about the subaru version is very much up in the air but most people expect it to make it in the states also.

 

Well, there is "rumor" on the FT86 boards that Yamaha has had a hand in how the engine actually sounds, just like they did with the LFA.
They may not have done anything with the actual boxer engine, but they're supposed to have made it sounds incredible.
BUT of course this is all hear-say.

 

i believe it's true. man if the fr-s will sound anything close to the LF-A, i`m sold on it

 

I wonder if they mean actual engine sound. At least on mine you can't hear the exhaust , but you can hear a beautiful noise instead. Noticeable in some of my front of the car videos I've taken

i was thinking something like this http://youtu.be/QBPuyBY8sSI?hd=1&t=4m39s when I read that. Would crop something off a dif video, but at work.

 

I do expect this car to be so small that I (6'6" 220lbs) will not be able to drive the car comfortably and that makes me sad.

I can't drive Miatas or S2000's or anythign else in that size class.

 

Yeah, no way in hell I could drive it. I also have a 36" inseam which really makes it difficult.

 

rear end!

 

Keep in mind that between the brands they are gonna look different.

 

http://jalopnik.com/5856997/subaru-brz-the-real-deal

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2011/11/0cf20e58a6fce139c19f3ee235783793.jpg

 

subaru is winning in my eyes now haha

enhanced version:

plasma blue?


official teaser

And interesting physical specs at the Japan site (per ichitaka):

BRZ: 4,200x1,770x1,270

vs.

FRS: 4,240x1,775x1,285


but wheel base is the same... (both 2,570)

discuss away lol

-from ft86club.com-

 

interior of the toyota version:

 

You think the production model will have the LED strip?

 

It's possibly, supposedly anyway, an option for the higher-end package for the FR-S/BRZ.

 

leds are showing up in toyotas as we type..

 

I hope not... I think that is already overdone! Everyone and their mom has LED bars on their new cars.

 

I'd hit it.

 

:jerk: I'd definately hit it.

 

I see a lot of Camaro likeness especially in the rear fenders.